TOPIC: Linnea verses MetaCrill

This is clearly something we're gonna have to take some time to see results for , this could be the same product with a new name to get more of ya money or it could actually be a better option or maybe it could even be a fucked up version that doesn't hold up as well . We don't know yet

I think you should learn more before you jump into PMMA.

Wade told me that the two were essentially the same. Wade said that they bought Linnea Safe because members of this forum wanted it. However, he hasn't noticed a difference. It's confusing. Is it better? May be too early to know. Someone mentioned it's easier to 'mold' in place. That would be a good attribute. Wade didn't mention that.

Some disagree with me but I strongly feel New Plastic was superior to anything being offered today. Guys had larger gains and less complications. Too bad it is not available still. Restoration is correct there was a period with metacrill seemed to be so bad people were reporting no gains for substantial amount of time. The brand is far from consistent. Realize that whatever you choose you are more likely to run into issues than those who received PMMA when new plastic was available.

Exactly , but I doubt he will because he's all about the money which is why the price of round 1 has doubled since this procedure has become somewhat popular

From the FAQ:

Q. What is the difference between Linnea Safe and Metacrill?

A. They are both PMMA-based gels for use in bioplasty (enlargement of penile Girth, diminishing wrinkles, augmenting cheeks, etc...). The non-PMMA based ingredients vary between the two products. Both products contain microscopic PMMA beads that trigger an immune reaction from the body that will cause you to produce collagenous tissue that walls off the product, in a 1-2 month period after implantation. The PMMA does not dissolve but the other ingredients leave the body within 3-5 days. Results and reputation of the products vary as well. Linnea Safe is more expensive. The ingredients are below:

Linnea SafePMMAHydroxycellulosePropylparabenMethylparaenWater MetacrillCarboxymethylcelluloseMagnesium Ethylenediaminetetraacetic acid disodium salt dehydrate (Titriplex magnesium)PMMACalcium gluconateLactated Ringer's solution

Girthseeker wrote: Exactly , but I doubt he will because he's all about the money which is why the price of round 1 has doubled since this procedure has become somewhat popular

These kind of comments always make me mad. People get mad that the price of a service or item is in demand increases. They act like the person providing the service should do for nothing. This is how the free market works. I am sure your boss would love to pay you half of what you get now, but if you could swing getting paid double for the same job, you would take it.

Fixed supply and excess demand means that the price of the good or service should increase until the two equal. Basic economics. Anyone not employing this in their business is not optimizing it. You can't really criticize someone for doing that.

Is Dr. C's service the "baragin" it once was? No. But you can't really criticize him for adjusting his prices to meet demand.

Dr. C said LS was also easier to inject... which is weird if it's the thicker one. But, maybe it's something else about it that makes it easier to inject. Or, maybe he meant it was easier to keep it in place then - since it's thicker and won't run.

Dr. Lemperle's email seemed to suggest they're the same...but he was more focused on trying to help with my Nodule, so the context wasn't totally about that.

If I had LS in round 1, I may not have had the reaction I did in R3... I have no idea what caused that. I only had 15 cc of 30% LS.

@briceb talk is cheap once again you did allll that talking and still didn't explain why . What I gotta ask you to ? EXPLAIN the difference I want you to because according to people's comments on here there IS NO difference just a uptick in price . I emailed them myself but still waiting on a reply but I would love to hear you explain the difference since your clearly beating around the bush . And yes when you quote someone and say " I hate people like this" and proceed to write a comment based off a comment I made because someone asked a common sense question and I gave them a common sense answer that is the definition of singling someone out, pointlessly at that. And the post about buying a bmw at half price was dumb as hell and irrelevant bmw never would put a car out and then once it became popular double the price they would lose business like that genius but clearly you dont really understand business and say whatever comes to mind . But let's not get off topic because I'm sure I'll never get an answer then just like in those last 2 comments you posted... So without all the extra I'm sure your gonna reply with... what's the DIFFERENCE between Linnea and metacril since your the expert . And THIS is what I meant when I said it won't work out for you so easy dont think because your a "moderator" and I'm a "newbie" on here I ain't gon get back at you when you clearly came for me bruh

Ok so you are arguing that its not affordable... yet you are saying he should get rid of the cheaper option?

Also this procedure is completely an elective procedure. Like a boob job. If you can't afford it, you shouldn't make your family struggle financially to be able to pay for it.

Dr. C is not the Robin Hood of PE... he is a doctor in the business of plastic surgery / aesthetics. A business which is built on people's insecurities and vanity. A business you enter to make money. Sure it has helped a lot of guys out with some very big issues in their lives, but lets not forget what kind of business this is.

Also, he brought back Linnea Safe because everyone here begged him to basically. My impression that I get from them is that its virtually the same stuff, so hence why they say in emails if you want to go the cheaper route, don't feel like you are getting crappier product. It's a different brand (and slightly different product).

I'm one of the few who have had a lot of New Plastic (Linnea Safe) and a lot of Metacrill. Both seemed to work mighty fine for me. Mind you my Linnea Safe was when it was called New Plastic back in 2011 / 2012.

Don't trust these guys..

SpankAss wrote: Thanks resto. Wade just emailed me back and said the Linnea was more viscous and better for patients because its easier to mold. I am wondering how true that is or if its just a up-sale over the metacrill.

I just want to point out that when I asked about pushing my appointment back a few weeks because they were getting Linnea Safe in, and I thought it was the better choice. Wade emailed me back, and his response was that they were the same. No mention of being easier to inject and manipulate. So who knows.

One of the reasons they brought metacrill back (I think) was due to patient complaints that they got no gains from metacrill. I was one of those people who got virtually nothing from 2014 metacrill (but 2013 metacrill was fine). In a great irony...I then had a massive negative reaction to 30% linnea safe...which I asked for because metacrill previously gave me no size in R2. Linnea safe gave me "size" but it all formed into nodules and most had to be surgically removed. You can see the separate linnea safe Balls apart from the smooth metacrill implant.

They went for a year or two with only one product - metacrill.

If Linnea Safe is truly the better option, the practice should discontinue the use of Metacrill simply for aesthetic purposes and overall patient satisfaction.