TOPIC: Dr. Elist new website (unintended honesty)
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12 years 8 months ago #1280386851phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/sca...from-implant-5373953
I've never heard of PMMA being injected into the scrotum. I know they do it with silicone.
I honestly would be absolutely stunned if either of those photos are of genuine PMMA patients.
If Elist wants I could provide links to photos of genuine bad PMMA results. In fact he only has to search this site as there have photos in some of the PMMA articles posted.
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12 years 8 months ago #1280386347- Skeptical_One
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12 years 8 months ago #1280331845I just wanted to check and see how long it took him to notice.
I guess in hindsight I should have left it alone and not brought it to anyone's attention. But it was too good not to share!
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12 years 8 months ago #1280326220Here is the new one...
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12 years 8 months ago #1280304972- Skeptical_One
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While all of it is tragically misleading, I think the "length" perk is the most audacious.
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12 years 8 months ago #1280332622- Skeptical_One
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briceb wrote: @DC
I just wanted to check and see how long it took him to notice.
I guess in hindsight I should have left it alone and not brought it to anyone's attention. But it was too good not to share!
I think it was a good idea. It not only served to give us laughs (no humor intended to any former patients, but rather, the good Doctor's unintended honesty), but it has confirmed (with near certainty) that he has someone scanning the forum frequently for whatever reason.
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Re: Dr. Elist new website (unintended honesty)
12 years 8 months ago #1280337002On a more serious note, though, since so many people have been harmed by him, I would urge anyone who has had a bad experience to visit these two websites:
www.mbc.ca.gov/consumer/complaint_info.html
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www.fda.gov/Safety/MedWatch/HowToReport/default.htm
If enough people who have been harmed complain, something can be done to stop him.
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12 years 8 months ago #1299975033- Mustang2020
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sun1 wrote:
Do you know if he has ever been sued over what he does or if their is a class action suit going?
He has been threatened to be sued but he settled out of court and paid back some victims or replaced the implant for free. So far there is no evidence of a class action.
Please tell us your story.
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Re: Dr. Elist new website (unintended honesty)
12 years 8 months ago #1280390809Looking at his site, yes it's sleek... Here's some info for those interested:
Platform: Wordpress
Theme: "Avada" by themefusion: themeforest.net/item/avada-responsive-mu...z_author=ThemeFusion ($55) <- Though his designer has modified it a little and made it worse in my opinion.
Yoast SEO plugin among others.
I could go on about sites linking in etc but why bother. The point I am trying to make here is that he has obviously paid a web designer to have a search engine optimized site. In which he is purposely trying to rank high for stuff like PMMA to put it down and to make his stuff look great. (All websites for companies should try to out-rank their competition... but I'd say this is a blackhat marketing method since he doesn't even do PMMA and the information he provides is quite damning to PMMA and only meant to embellish his fucked up procedure).
edit: I doubt he got themefusion to build the site... its pretty common practice now days for site designers to just buy themes for wordpress or joomla and charge customers for a site saying they designed it. In reality they just customize it a bit. It's not a bad thing... The customer gets a far more powerful site that is better optimized for a shit-ton cheaper than a hand crafted / hand coded site.
edit 2: That being said... yes it only costs $55 for that theme... if you get hosting somewhere for $60 /yr and that theme = $115 is all it would cost for that site... IF you are willing to put in the man hours to put all the content in and design logos and graphics and stuff... I'm curious as to how much he paid... part of me hopes he does see this because I bet he's easily sank $5000 - $10,000+ in it (likely more) if the designer helped with the content. The designer even used the default colour palette.
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Re: Dr. Elist new website (unintended honesty)
12 years 8 months ago #1280304834He lies on virtually every point on that chart. FDA approved! Patented! Permanent! 2 to 3 days recovery! Achieve length! No retraction! It's simply unbelievable.
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12 years 8 months ago #1280386246- Skeptical_One
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What's amusing (and almost impressive, though it was clearly done out of desperation) is the extent he went to break down PMMA's potential issues. But I suppose you have to be well-versed in PMMA in order to find ways to exaggerate or (leave out) information while trying to make it appear credible & legit.
A good example is how the Doctor cites the lack of FDA approval for PMMA's use in soft-tissue augmentation. This is presumably referring to Artefill, which FDA's approval cites the correction/smoothening of the nasolabial folds of the face. But if we wish to use this argument, we must point out that the Doctor's own implant isn't FDA approved for penis enlargement either, but instead for the cosmetic correction of soft tissue deformities. One of his own talking points against PMMA can be used against his implant!
But he's clever. Making a page that seems to discuss PMMA in a comprehensive manner citing studies and such gives the appearance of legitimacy to the unfamiliar reader. And for this reason, it's pretty messed up!
Also, if it wasn't already apparent, the majority of his would-be patients are opting to go over the border. He's trying to give his failed implant some renewed legitimacy but I'm not sure why he doesn't realize that it is almost impossible to do if the product doesn't work! I've noticed online with his new website, his (embarrassingly silly) Youtube videos of supposed patients, and his continued release of newsletters with raffles & prizes that he's hellbent on being the world's best phallo-doc, despite there being plenty of work for him elsewhere in Urology!
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12 years 8 months ago #1280329696- dcpimpin12
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Re: Dr. Elist new website (unintended honesty)
12 years 8 months ago #1280390628Yet at the same time, he pushes this as a benefit of his implant.
And you are correct, SO. His implant is NOT FDA approved for penis enlargement, yet he will gladly tell anyone who will listen that it is.
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