TOPIC: How long did it take to get back to full firmness?

Hi there - recently had PMMA done 7 days but overall feeling is about 80% hardness as opposed to pre injection feeling. It’s a bit squishier than before- for those who had Bellafil or PMMA - did your hardness ever get back to pre levels? And how long did it take? Obviously factors like amount etc effect it but does PMMA harden over the next few weeks?

I'd say 2 weeks or so. I wouldn't stress about it. I'm sure this is a change in routine for you. All sorts of factors (sleep, diet, exercise, personal/work stress) comes into play. At this point, you might be obsessing over it, which I'm guilty of too post-procedure, but focus on day to day and getting back to an active routine by the start of 2nd week.

I think my wife prefers the stiffness I had before the surgery? I was curious if overall stiffness returns as the collagen forms - the overall swelling seems to have gone down

I got Linnea Safe and it’s super firm. It’s a bit squishy but feels like a silicone sleeve when Flaccid, if that makes sense. But when Erect it hardens of that makes any sense? I have not read of any complaints on this filler. I’ve read plenty of squishy complaints about HA and fat transfer

Absolutely back at full firmness, and I'd say for me that was around day 26 based upon this phalloboards.info/forum/progress-reports...?start=15#1308718434

(looking at the collage)

When my EQ is 100% I'd argue it's even harder than before.
When you look at the diagrams of the dick and where the GOOD injectors put the filler, it makes sense.
I think the "squish" anyone talks about is likely down mostly to injectors going superficially, so that the outermost layer one feels is augmented surface layer. Whereas with good injectors they go between the two fascia, so it's just pressing outwards on the same skin layers you had before.

Think of it like a football, you have an air bladder, with a layer of leather on the outside.
Imagine injecting something between the air bladder, and the leather, but then still putting EXACTLY the same volume of air into it. The leather is still going to feel the same, if not firmer, because it's stretching more - in the case of human skin, of course, we grow new tissue to account for that. But the premise is the same, the PMMA, HA, whatever, go into a layer where it is NOT felt directly. Unless of course you have a shitty bargain bin injector.

EDIT: to clarify, if you look at the collage, I thought my swelling was gone on 8/5, 12 days post procedure. I was wrong, as you can see from the increased vascularity and recession near the base in the latest photo.

I would say I have better firmness after my first round than before. I’d say give it up to 8 weeks.

For me like three weeks.

I will say at poor EQ its slightly softer than before especially where the product is, but at 75%+ EQ it’s an improvement in hardness

for my very first round of Ellanse; i was rather "squisjy" for over a month. ive posted here in various threads. but I would say roughly 6-8 weeks.

Im curious - do all the docs recommend stretching or hanger devices after PMMA or HA? @PhalloplasticSurgeon_DrLiu Dr. Liu? @LeonardoMedicine Dr Leo?

Woodworking714 wrote: Im curious - do all the docs recommend stretching or hanger devices after PMMA or HA? @PhalloplasticSurgeon_DrLiu Dr. Liu? @LeonardoMedicine Dr Leo?

@Avanti_Derma told me to wait about 4 months.

I don’t work with PAMA. Use of a traction device is not necessary for my patients. If they have a problem with retractions/shrinkage, they are pretreated with Grotox (Penile Botox) to allow the penis to hang better while Flaccid:

@Jung
Thanks for your comment. So Avanti said 4 months stretcher?

I only wanted to wear it 2-3 month. But when they said 4 is better I ll do 4.

PmmaFan wrote: @Jung
Thanks for your comment. So Avanti said 4 months stretcher?

I only wanted to wear it 2-3 month. But when they said 4 is better I ll do 4.

Correct. Not that it’s a required thing to do, it’s just if you want to extend, they recommend 4 months out post-op.

„(…)the "squish" anyone talks about is likely down mostly to injectors going superficially, so that the outermost layer one feels is augmented surface layer(…)“

@itgoesthud
I would agree: When you go to superficial - it feels like the product is more attached to the skin - what ll give a squishy feeling.
BUT: Its also a general fact in Pmma = the more deep you, the less effect / reaction the filler ll have. And also: The more superficial you go, the more effect / potency the filler ll have, but also the risk of granuloma is higher.

@itgoesthud
How good is you hardness after Pmma ?

I mean there's really only one correct depth to inject it - that's between the two layers of fascia.

As for hardness I would say it's probably harder than it was beforehand, but still within the realm of what I would call natural. It's like the collagen gives it extra rigidity

One nice thing I noticed, there are those times where you can sort of get hard, it's a really weak Erection, and you're really just kind of shoving a half limp Dick into a woman. Basically you can't perform. Well since I had the procedure I had one of those instances happen where I was at maybe 60%, she was ready to go, warmed up with foreplay, I slapped on a little bit of lube and that shit was squeezing me so tight, I was able to get all the way hard and do the deed. At my old Girth that would not have happened. Without the harder collagen to keep me from bending in half so easily that wouldn't have happened