TOPIC: QUESTION FOR DR.OATES AND ANYONE ELSE

Tutti wrote:
I've been reading as much as I can on HA and I don't remember anyone saying that. Hoodie dissolved his but he thinks that was because he skin was too loose.

I was told on PM. Just sharing what he told me, not personal experience.

mato23 wrote: It isn't accurate, doesn't say that also Voluma lasts 18 months!

This was a website that used it in the face so the time frame may be different.

plamen_k4 wrote: About Teosyal Ultradeep, a member who used it, sad that it is forming hard lumps so he had to dissolve it.

I'l take what you say on board but if its true what you say it could be down to the specific person not squeezing the lumps the next day , i know from experience that you need to make sure you do this. If it is harder product like the doc says then i imagine it is plausible for it to be lumpier .

Apparently teodysal is harder to mold at the beginning and requires a better after care so its not used as much dven though it gives the best result for HA

costa wrote: I've had the juverderm injections about 3 months ago and going back next friday for top up , but noticed they sell a new product called "Ultra deep " it states its similar to Juvaderm but feels harder and of course a little more expensive .

Do you know the product they are selling or have used it ? Its the Androfill in London .

Cheers

OK - so I am way behind....Yep know about Teosyal Ultra Deep. Tried it and did not like it (sorry if this is too late). It is made for placing down against the bone and is quite hard. It did not workout so well.
Currently am trialling Ultimate - which seems very similar to Voluma.

mat744 wrote: I have a question on my own doc oats, could it be that voluma reduced the sensation on the skin ? Especially if injected on the superficial layer instead of more deep ? Does the lidocaine stays ?

There have been reports of slight decrease in sensation of the shaft. Shaft sensation is not that important (sensitive) to most guys. Sensitivity of the glans is much more important.

The lignocaine will only work for 30 - 60 min, so no worries there.

costa wrote: Just found this , its to do with the face but some interesting stuff to read

www.healthcentre.org.uk/cosmetic-treatme...m-and-restylane.html

They are picking and choosing to their own advantage. Basically they have developed a range that is very similar to Juvederm and each comparable version seems to last a similar time. They are made slightly differently and maybe there are some slight differences - takes time to find these small differences.

As I mentioned above we trailed and had to dissolve - so it could have been our patient. Wont be trying Ultra Deep again.

Dr Oates wrote:
There have been reports of slight decrease in sensation of the shaft. Shaft sensation is not that important (sensitive) to most guys. Sensitivity of the glans is much more important.

The lignocaine will only work for 30 - 60 min, so no worries there.

Thanks for answering, i can notice a oretty net differnce in senditivity but might be due tk really strong inflamation afterr procedure during more time than normsl .. do you know if those loss of sensation have remained after filler was gone ? Basically sex with condom was boring ( but it has amways be). Any news about elliance ?

Dr Oates wrote:
There have been reports of slight decrease in sensation of the shaft. Shaft sensation is not that important (sensitive) to most guys. Sensitivity of the glans is much more important.

The lignocaine will only work for 30 - 60 min, so no worries there.

It's not just that the glans that's more sensitive than the shaft which it is, it's also that the Foreskin it's much more sensitive than the shaft skin.

You may want to look into Ellanse.

Dr. Oates provides it in his clinic.

If it helps from a patient with 6 ml of UD
Ultra Deep feels like you have a plastic implant for one month, it is painful because it presses into the penis meaning constantly adjusting your hang, and then it is better than voluma because it is harder.

You mean it gets a bit softer sfter a month ?

It feels unnaturally hard for 4-6 weeks and foreign to the body, like rubber.

It is a pain to get smooth vs voluma and wants to clump together so needs weeks of massage.

Then after about 1-2 months it feels realistic. I have sections of Ultra deep that feel hard surrounded by sections of voluma that feel a little less firm.

Without having had voluma and being familiar with molding I would not have managed to get ultra deep right.