--- title: "The start of my journey pre pmma, lakingsfan35 - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Ok, I figure it's now or never. My wife is in inpatient treatment for her eating disorder (bulimia ) she went in last Tuesday.... - Page 3" url: "https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/7765026-the-start-of-my-journey-pre-pmma-lakingsfan35.html?start=30" date: "2026-08-06T15:59:45+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: The start of my journey pre pmma, lakingsfan35 ## Re: The start of my journey pre pmma, lakingsfan35 10 years 7 months ago [\#1290258181](#1290258181) - **[lakingsfan35](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html "View lakingsfan35's Profile")** - [![lakingsfan35's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html "View lakingsfan35's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4241983-lakingsfan35.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 239 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4241983) So I have not measured all month until this morning, well I guess last measurement was Dec 6th. I woke up with great morning wood so I figured I would measure today. A smidgen over 6.5 BPEL! There is approx 1/8 Inch before the measurement starts on this ruler. The largest I've ever been able to measure was 6.25 BPEL in October at the start of this journey. So you guys are so right the ADS works!!!! 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Join the club! 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November 14 2015 was my last pic in the pump tube I was right at 7". Today's I was over 7.25 in the tube. I am so Flippin stoked. Here is a pic in the tube and just prior to going into the tube 6.75 BPEL prior to pumping with a 80 to 90 eq I'm so stoked. You Guys Are THE Best! I so appreciate all of the good advice given here and all of the sharing of this forum. Way better than thunders etc..... my starting stat was 6.0 to 6.25 BPEL depending on eq, so far this is a net gain of at least .50 BPEL due to the esl 40 usage mainly. I have cut down to pumping once a week. I dont want to have soft or eq issues ive read about and the Ads appears to be doing its job. I didnt measure Girth prior to the tube and i dont want to measure post pumping..... and have an inflated stat sorry the pics are sideways... 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Congrats! 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Exact same 6.75 BPEL and 7.25 in the tube. No gain in this last month, I hope I have not hit that dreaded plateau.... I've been in the esl40 daily with the exception of 5 days off to heal from that strange urethra pain. Is this normal to have no gain or am I at the end of what the esl40 can do, meaning do I need to step up to Hanging and or phallosan forte? Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzc3NjUwMjYtdGhlLXN0YXJ0LW9mLW15LWpvdXJuZXktcHJlLXBtbWEtbGFraW5nc2ZhbjM1Lmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0zMA==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: The start of my journey pre pmma, lakingsfan35 10 years 5 months ago [\#1291119270](#1291119270) - - !['s Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1867342) hey Lakingsfan - I never found any gains I ever made were linear. Some months I got a little, some months nothing, some more than a little than nothing etc. I would suggest that you will not get to your goals with just the Esl40 - it is just not enough of a pull, I always needed to switch up and down the tension, so if you are committed definitely get something capable of more intensity - but congrats on the gains - that already puts you in a minority! 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Going through the same thing using the x4 Labs extender. I thought that the x4 Labs provided more pull and so the results would faster. Well, that really hasn't happened either. I don't know what to say. Keep at it. That's what I'm going to do. Good luck my man. 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I change the tension through the day when it starts to ache I lighten up a tad then an hour or so later I add some back in.......... Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzc3NjUwMjYtdGhlLXN0YXJ0LW9mLW15LWpvdXJuZXktcHJlLXBtbWEtbGFraW5nc2ZhbjM1Lmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD0zMA==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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