--- title: "SFdude's PMMA progress - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "As you all know, I had my ligs cut last year by Rosenthal. A couple weeks ago, on Jan 6, I had my appointment with Dr. C for my PMMA procedure. Since the 6th..." url: "https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/7267453-sfdudes-pmma-progress.html" date: "2026-08-06T22:57:45+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: SFdude's PMMA progress ## SFdude's PMMA progress 11 years 6 months ago [\#1285941879](#1285941879) - **[sfdude](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2106521-sfdude.html "View sfdude's Profile")** - [![sfdude's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2106521-sfdude.html "View sfdude's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2106521-sfdude.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 40 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2106521) As you all know, I had my ligs cut last year by Rosenthal. A couple weeks ago, on Jan 6, I had my appointment with Dr. C for my PMMA procedure. Since the 6th was on a Tuesday, I planned to stay in Tijuana until that Friday. My idea (and I can't recall who suggested it here) was to follow up with Dr. C and Wade every day to ensure that the results are as good as it could be. That was one of the best decisions I made, aside from booking the trip in the first place. My stats pre-lig cut (and after a long hiatus from any Hanging or stretching): 4.5 BPFL 6.75 BPFSL 4.5 FW 6 BPEL 5 EW My stats pre-PMMA (and after Hanging since the lig-cut): ~5 1/8 BPFL ~7 BPFSL ~4.5 FW ~6 3/4 BPEL ~5 EW I measures this right before the appointment, but I typically dont like to rely on just one measurement. My current stats (16 days post PMMA) ~5 1/2 BPFL ~6 1/4 BPFSL ~5 1/4 FW ~6 BPEL ~6 1/8 EW I did a tijuana Viagra last night, and the Girth was 6 at the base and almost 6 1/4 towards the head. And the Length was and even 6. So, yeah, 6-6-6 the number of "my" Beast More to follow.... 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I flew into San Diego and took the bus and trolley to the border. Very cheap and easy. Once at the border, I just followed the people across and spotted the taxi area. The ride to Grand Hotel was $7 I think. The grand hotel is nice enough, and is definitely convenient; this is great when you are going back and forth to see Dr. C. It's actaully a decent area with enough places to eat, starbucks nearby, etc. I was never concerned about safety. So, on Tuesday, 1/6, was the procedure. He used 19cc of 30% and 7.5cc of 10%. The batch was from 2/2014, FYI. All the pain was from the Novacane shots; otherwise is was not bad at all. After an hour, I was done. Initially, there was a lot of swelling, but not enough to be a concern. Bruising wasn't too bad at all. My after care was pretty much to relax with my Cock in a sock. I did massage every once in a while, but Wade was awesome at massaging over the next few days. I really couldn't do better than what he did. And then, on Friday, Dr. C put in another 1cc of 30% to fill in a depression. That took about 10 min. I took the shuttle back to the states on Friday with Scooby. That is best was to go, and well worth the extra money. All in all, pretty good trip and with perfect weather too! So, I'm currently 17 days out, and gained 3/4 Inch in Flaccid Girth and an Inch or more in Erect Girth. The texture or density is about the same, maybe a tad firmer. I can feel a small ridge on the right undeside near the glans; kinda feels a vein (if I didn't know any better). Also, there may be a depression on the left side of my shaft at the base, which may be why my base is slightly smaller than the rest of the shaft. Neither is a big deal, since no penis is perfectly cylinderical. Oh, and every know and then there is some crazy itchiness going on. From what I undestand, that is normal and maybe even good. 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First 3 was immediately before the lig cut; second set of 3 was immediately before the PMMA; 3rd set of 3 was about 4 hours post PMMA; last set of 3 are 14 days post PMMA. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzcyNjc0NTMtc2ZkdWRlcy1wbW1hLXByb2dyZXNzLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: SFdude's PMMA progress 11 years 6 months ago [\#1285942462](#1285942462) - **[uptownblk](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1725083-uptownblk.html "View uptownblk's Profile")** - [![uptownblk's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1725083-uptownblk.html "View uptownblk's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1725083-uptownblk.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 64 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1725083) Hi Sf, congrats on yr great looking results. Also, if you plan on having another round or two; you may want to look into getting a global entry card which is just 99.00 and will speed you through all immigration lines in way less time. It works very well and if you have an Amex platinum card the 99.00 is reimbursed. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzcyNjc0NTMtc2ZkdWRlcy1wbW1hLXByb2dyZXNzLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: SFdude's PMMA progress 11 years 6 months ago [\#1285942570](#1285942570) - **[STRETCHER](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/3716004-stretcher.html "View STRETCHER's Profile")** - [![STRETCHER's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/3716004-stretcher.html "View STRETCHER's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/3716004-stretcher.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 12 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=3716004) Two questions for ya sfdude. First of all congratulations on those excellent gains. Did you stretch or hang alot before the lig cut and do you feel like you could of gained that 3/4 Inch of length with the stretching/Hanging alone and without the ligament surgery? Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzcyNjc0NTMtc2ZkdWRlcy1wbW1hLXByb2dyZXNzLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: SFdude's PMMA progress 11 years 6 months ago [\#1285942961](#1285942961) - - !['s Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=3234377) Congrats from me too. I noticed that there is a very little difference between 4 hours post op and 2 weeks post op. It looks to me the size did not go down at all. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzcyNjc0NTMtc2ZkdWRlcy1wbW1hLXByb2dyZXNzLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: SFdude's PMMA progress 11 years 6 months ago [\#1285946448](#1285946448) - **[sfdude](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2106521-sfdude.html "View sfdude's Profile")** - [![sfdude's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2106521-sfdude.html "View sfdude's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2106521-sfdude.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 40 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2106521) > STRETCHER wrote: Two questions for ya sfdude. First of all congratulations on those excellent gains. > Did you stretch or hang alot before the lig cut and do you feel like you could of gained that 3/4 Inch of length with the stretching/Hanging alone and without the ligament surgery? I have hanged a lot before the lig cut, but didn't for several months prior to the surgury. My recollection was that at one point I was almost 7 inches Erect. So, the 3/4 Inch gain wasn't really due to the lig cut, but was just the recovery of lost gains. I do think it helped with the flacid length though. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzcyNjc0NTMtc2ZkdWRlcy1wbW1hLXByb2dyZXNzLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: SFdude's PMMA progress 11 years 6 months ago [\#1285959451](#1285959451) - **[sfdude](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2106521-sfdude.html "View sfdude's Profile")** - [![sfdude's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2106521-sfdude.html "View sfdude's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2106521-sfdude.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 40 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2106521) Yeah, I'm really leaning towards not going for round two. At 6 inches, it is a tight fit into a couple of petite asian girls I know. They do cum quicklly, though the build up of getting in all inside gets me off quickly too. lol Well, I'll atleast give it a year or more before I decide. But if all I'm doing is very minor corrections, it probably isn't worth the dough... Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzcyNjc0NTMtc2ZkdWRlcy1wbW1hLXByb2dyZXNzLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: SFdude's PMMA progress 11 years 2 months ago [\#1287355224](#1287355224) - **[sfdude](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2106521-sfdude.html "View sfdude's Profile")** - [![sfdude's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2106521-sfdude.html "View sfdude's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2106521-sfdude.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 40 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2106521) I just thought I'd check in on this thread. I really don't have any real updates, other than to say that everything has been the same for the past few months. I thought about a 2nd round, or maybe a touch up, and I may do that later this year. I'm not so much looking at getting bigger, but to break up a couplle of denser areas and maybe fill a small areas or two. Regardless of whether I go back, I'm still extremely happy with the results. 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Thanks for checking in. 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Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzcyNjc0NTMtc2ZkdWRlcy1wbW1hLXByb2dyZXNzLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: SFdude's PMMA progress 10 years 9 months ago [\#1289714211](#1289714211) - **[sfdude](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2106521-sfdude.html "View sfdude's Profile")** - [![sfdude's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2106521-sfdude.html "View sfdude's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2106521-sfdude.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 40 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2106521) I'm currently on vacation with a buddy of mine in South East Asia, and just had a fun night in Phuket (Patong). Walked around the many Go-go bars, played with many bar-girls, etc. I can't even count the number of girls who were grabbing my Cock last night, and all were very impressed. On multiple occasions, one girl would grab it and then comment to the other girls, who would then also reach over to check it out. It was all in Thai, but some girls would be talking and then grab their wrist, and if to suggest that was how thick I was. Lol. It could all be part of the game they play, but I didn't see that reaction for any other guys while I was out. Anyways, it's was good to have that reaction, especially from girls who are VERY familiar with cocks. Also, my friend was there (no such reaction for him), and he didn't ask if I had anything done. He has seen me naked many times, though perhaps he never paid that much attention to my size. He would mention something to me, if he though my I had... 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