--- title: "Round 2 Complete updated Photo's - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Hello to all! Very new to this site, so glad to have found it! Seems like a brotherhood! Anyway, I have a tentative appt 16 Jan... - Page 4" url: "https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/6686936-round-2-complete-updated-photos.html?start=45" date: "2026-08-06T16:34:01+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Round 2 Complete updated Photo's ## Re: Round 2 Complete updated Photo's 12 years 4 months ago [\#1281871180](#1281871180) - **[dcpimpin12](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1982119-dcpimpin12.html "View dcpimpin12's Profile")** - [![dcpimpin12's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1982119-dcpimpin12.html "View dcpimpin12's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1982119-dcpimpin12.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 316 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1982119) what is your length size? Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzY2ODY5MzYtcm91bmQtMi1jb21wbGV0ZS11cGRhdGVkLXBob3Rvcy5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9NDU=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Round 2 Complete updated Photo's 12 years 4 months ago [\#1281872753](#1281872753) - **[supa](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1724970-supa.html "View supa's Profile")** - [![supa's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1724970-supa.html "View supa's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1724970-supa.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 266 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1724970) Crebo, thank you for taking the time to post and upload pictures. Lovely results, congratulations. 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Nice, fat, and uniform. Congrats. Happy aftercare. 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I can't stop looking at it....Looks as good or better than my original, to me. dcpimpin12, I have an upwards curve, not severe, but when I straighten out it's 6 - 6.35. Bone pressed put's me around 7.25. Damn fat pad of mine! How is your manual going? 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Just posting some updated photos. I'm 2 1/2 weeks post op round 2. Things are going well so far. All of the photos are Flaccid minus the last. Not fully Erect! As you guys know it's hard, pun intended, to take photos! 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Are you happy with it? 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Very pleased with how things turned out....Thanks for the complements... Restoration! Round 1 I used esl 40 which felt like it irritated around my circ...but It took minute to figure out how to properly wear it...Round 1 itself prevented alot of Turtling. Rd 2 was quite easy, I was given a silicon sleeve....which was nice---- it kept a bit more even but again after round 1 you'll loose alot of the turtle. I wore the sleeve almost all day for about week, then sleeve and stretcher (home/work), sometimes I would place the sleeve on roll it back slightly to the circ then place the stretcher suction on my glans.... and roll the sleeve back over the suction.....this I think helped as well Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzY2ODY5MzYtcm91bmQtMi1jb21wbGV0ZS11cGRhdGVkLXBob3Rvcy5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9NDU=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Round 2 Complete updated Photo's 12 years 4 months ago [\#1282075679](#1282075679) - **[Restoration](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile")** - [![Restoration's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html "View Restoration's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2984876-restoration.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1185 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2984876) > oberc wrote: Thanks Bricep! > > Very pleased with how things turned out....Thanks for the complements... > > Restoration! > > Round 1 I used esl 40 which felt like it irritated around my circ...but It took minute to figure out how to properly wear it...Round 1 itself prevented alot of Turtling. > Rd 2 was quite easy, I was given a silicon sleeve....which was nice---- it kept a bit more even but again after round 1 you'll loose alot of the turtle. I wore the sleeve almost all day for about week, then sleeve and stretcher (home/work), sometimes I would place the sleeve on roll it back slightly to the circ then place the stretcher suction on my glans.... and roll the sleeve back over the suction.....this I think helped as well Thanks! I have been asking everyone about this. You have great results. I can't get the ESL40 to stay on the head ONLY - it always rolls down onto the top of the shaft...if I put it on the head only, it just slips off. Did you have this problem? Wade just said - nothing on the shaft...so I'm not sure what to do. If Wade has the silicone sleeves (is that where you got it - from avanti) then maybe he'll give me one too. I have like a 3" difference between Erect and Flaccid & really don't want to end up with a lumpy penis for 3-4 months until round two if I can avoid it. 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I believe the key to wearing the esl 40 is not to wear it to tight/pulling for a stretch immediately after the procedure. I think just enough tension just to keep it from Turtling. Anyway, I would take the suction roll it up tight(2 rolls much like wearing a knit hat) place my head directly in the center of the roll, pull the shaft exposing the circ area, then let it pop over the glans. Prolly how you do it!!!!! Just saying. Now that my procedure is almost 3 weeks post I've been getting a more robust stretch, but not immediately after just enough to keep it from re tracking. Yes, Wade gave me the sleeve. I believe everyone should get a sleeve, maybe not the shower guys-cause of their natural hang. I really think the sleeve could have made a difference in my round 1. I wasn't given the sleeve til round 2. I really enjoyed wearing the sleeve and the suction at the same time, minus the harness. This keep my glans out and my shaft straight and even. I do understand you dilemma 30 vs 10. DR C will help you with the decision....meet in the middle to meet your goals. But if you have enough money(not getting in your business) to get a quick round 2 I would go for 30.....you can see the issues I've had rd 1. All fixed round 2. I do believe with the sleeve I could have had a better round 1 result. Anyway Good luck Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzY2ODY5MzYtcm91bmQtMi1jb21wbGV0ZS11cGRhdGVkLXBob3Rvcy5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9NDU=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Round 2 Complete updated Photo's 12 years 4 months ago [\#1282204860](#1282204860) - - !['s Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2111314) When did you have the k shot? 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Your 2.5 week Round 2 pics looked great! 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So R2 did its job well. That's always good to hear. It looks like you went to your visits about 7 weeks apart - did they feel that was enough time? I've heard some say to wait - but you have really good results - so I just wondered how they felt about your R2 and if the 7 weeks was enough (vs. 3 months, some say). Thanks! (Btw, random question - how did you screen name get reversed? lol... everyone's calling you crebo - so i did too - but it's backwards on the side. If it was a privacy thing , nevermind - just wondered!) Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzY2ODY5MzYtcm91bmQtMi1jb21wbGV0ZS11cGRhdGVkLXBob3Rvcy5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9NDU=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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