--- title: "Miracle8x7's PMMA Progress Report - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Hello my fellow PB friends... Thought I'd go ahead and start documenting early. Here are some flaccid pics. Please ignore the blue... - Page 69" url: "https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/5391236-miracle8x7s-pmma-progress-report.html?start=1020" date: "2026-08-06T16:34:39+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Miracle8x7's PMMA Progress Report ## Re: Miracle8x7's PMMA Progress Report 10 years 3 months ago [\#1291895218](#1291895218) - **[jimmy\_the\_\_blade](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1748224-jimmy-the-blade.html "View jimmy_the__blade's Profile")** - [![jimmy_the__blade's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1748224-jimmy-the-blade.html "View jimmy_the__blade's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1748224-jimmy-the-blade.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 74 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1748224) Johnnyswift. This site saved me from Elsit as well. There is a ton of info here if you're willing to do the work and read it. Ive learned a ton and continue my non surgical efforts. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzUzOTEyMzYtbWlyYWNsZTh4N3MtcG1tYS1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnQuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTEwMjA=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Miracle8x7's PMMA Progress Report 10 years 3 months ago [\#1291898310](#1291898310) - **[Miracle8x7](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html "View Miracle8x7's Profile")** - [![Miracle8x7's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html "View Miracle8x7's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1328 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1724055) @HW Thank you, my friend. Approximately 8.5" BPFSL. 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Some experience you have there Mr M8x7! I'm a little lost on what you'd recommend for new patients for PMMA, was it 10% injections consistently, or 16%? Also, how did you end up going with the rolling regimen? I am very interested in visiting Dr C, however I am in Australia and need to plan accordingly. My starting stats are BPEL 8.3" and MSEG 5.7" and base closer to 6.5" I'd really like to bring that to 6-7ish with a subtle taper, with that Shane Diesel look. I guess it helps that my glans starting size is pretty massive by comparison to the shaft. What do you think M8x7? 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No I am asking genuine questions. 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Sorry but not sorry. But trying to have a Dick size that doesn't even exist in reality or a natural state is just making small guys look even worse. 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Everyone has to deal with thier own reality. Two guys with completely different penis sizes can be in the same mental state about it, both suffering the same. Think positive thoughts!! 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Sorry but not sorry. But trying to have a Dick size that doesn't even exist in reality or a natural state is just making small guys look even worse. It only makes small guys with insecure egos look worse. These are the sentiments of someone who is in no way mature or fit for discussion on these forums, and I'm rather surprised you didn't keep such childish thoughts to yourself. I started thinner than the vast majority of posters here and despite being confused by the ambitions of "naturally bigger" men, I never wished them harm in their pursuit for a bigger size. Please keep those vile thoughts to yourself from now on, thanks. 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Can't we all just get along? Every man is unique and so is their vision of ideal. I'm happy where I'm at. I definitely am done with Girth. That said, I (keyword here) would like to be a bit longer. Don't care what chicks want or what my wife prefers. It is what I want. Seek out what makes YOU happier about YOURSELF. You're accepted here at PhalloBoards regardless of your current size or your ambitions. Maliciousness or ill intent serves no purpose here. We are here to educate, support and share. Always remember... Karma is a BITCH. 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I'm currently at Erect 7.3 and Girth 5.25-5.3 with no pumping/streching or surgery.....if you could do it over again what PMMA brand at what concentration and at what cc would you suggest. i want a natural look and feel. i would like to be north of 6.25 Erect Girth but will do it slow and methodical if safest. if it where you, what would you advise. thanks in adv Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL3BhdGllbnQtc3VwcG9ydC1ncm91cC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLzUzOTEyMzYtbWlyYWNsZTh4N3MtcG1tYS1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnQuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTEwMjA=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Miracle8x7's PMMA Progress Report 10 years 3 months ago [\#1292071976](#1292071976) - **[TheSneakyTruth](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4474254-thesneakytruth.html "View TheSneakyTruth's Profile")** - [![TheSneakyTruth's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4474254-thesneakytruth.html "View TheSneakyTruth's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4474254-thesneakytruth.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 5 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4474254) To follow the above question, what are your opinions on all the different concentration % of PMMA that Dr C uses, and what would you go with if you could start over. How did you go with your rolling regime? 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It's up to how your penis reacts and your aftercare. If you have a tight circumscision it's better. The looser your penis skin is, I think results are worse. At least that was my case. I guess if I could do it again I would go with a smaller amount of product and work up slowly. Not 30cc like I had.... Plus I wore a sleeve which bunched up the product. I would start out with 15cc of 10% just to see how you react. You can always go back. It will cost more but money can be made again but a fuked up penis is hard to fix. 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