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TOPIC: The Thin border between PE and TEA

Re: The Thin border between PE and TEA

15 years 1 week ago #1269564610
Hey HC! I smoked for 20' years and as a result have premature grey hair. I quit smoking a little over a year ago (mom would be so proud). My face still looks like I'm in my mid twenties though and I'm constantly hit on by women in their late teens and early twenties. Also, I run and lift so I'm in pretty good shape at 38. Where do you buy Progress For Men? I'm having difficulty locating it. I like your "TE" concept. If anything, hopefully you feel better about yourself. Best of luck in conquering Father Time. Congratulations on your PE. I'm looking forward to your feedback.

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Re: The Thin border between PE and TEA

15 years 1 week ago #1269887179
I thought these articles might be helpful in your research. Both are medically referenced.

1/2 Life of Test E.

Aromatase Inhibitor/PCT Article








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Re: The Thin border between PE and TEA

15 years 1 week ago #1269771981
Structural secondary post traumatic open reconstructive rhinoplasty - Part III
Here are some pictures of the extent of the surgery. It only shows the tip of the iceberg so to speak. The nasal bone had been mashed and broken back when I had the accident and then sawed at and chiseled for hours during reparatory surgery back in the day. It had to be reworked during this recent surgery but it was too hard to get much done.

All the cartilage was buckled and twisted so bad in concave and convex forms that the surgeon couldn't reshape it or rework it and had to use special microligature grafting techniques he had pioneered to rebuild and reshape new ones. Adding to this his proprietary muscular tissue dressings he calls camouflage layering, he finished the job as best he could.

The tip had been exploded by the oar and was splitting into pieces which couldn't be patched so it had to come out and be replaced with the cartilage from my ear. That was an unexpected pleasure which gave the result you can see here.
Here's what it looked like to those in the operating room for the six hours on the block. It took him four times the expected time of 1.5 hours. I don't know just how hard it was and he did say that he had to improvise quite a bit and that my case was the worst mess he'd seen. It didn't look nearly as bad on the outside as within.

Not exactly appetizing you will agree but I think this makes it easier to accept that any form of surgery is going to be invasive, except for simple injection procedures such as PMMA which hardly causes any impact at all in most cases.
HC

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Re: The Thin border between PE and TEA

15 years 1 week ago #1269568207
Hi Miracle7,
Here is the link to the product in France, google chrome webbrowser offers an integrated page translator. I don't know if it is sold in the US but I'm sure some resellers would ship it.
www.loreal-paris.fr/coloration/couleur/progress-homme.aspx
It comes in a box with 4 small tubes, since it costs about $40 dollars one has to check they're all inside before paying the cashier as some people lift the tubes out of their container as the boxes are not sealed. It is found in Paris a high end cosmetic shops and places like Monoprix or supermarkets but only in the better neighborhoods. Run some checks with Oreal in the States to see if they sell it there or in Canada where shipping and sales to the US would be easier.
Cheers,
HC

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Re: The Thin border between PE and TEA

15 years 1 week ago #1269852120
Bingo. The increase in appetite is normal. Muscle helps burn fat. Even with a moderate increase in overall caloric intake, if you exercise, you should be able to increase muscle mass and decrease body fat. That's part of the beauty of T. Good choice to go with veggies. If possible, stick with organic. If not, make sure to wash them really well. You don't want your body bombarded with xenoestrogens. Cheers mate!

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Re: The Thin border between PE and TEA

15 years 1 week ago #1269692386
@Dd71
You asked the right question, it is funny how ironic life can be.
I have put myself through a ringer. Ten days after surgery both my eyes finally started to synch. I had spent more than a week thinking I was half blind because the additive implant was hard to heal and adjust to. Now I can see better than I have in ages, it removed my far-sighted need for glasses, now I can read up close better than most people and my field of vision is great with more detail than I have seen in ages.
So I will now post my experience in Total Enhancement in the following series of posts about each specific procedure.
HC

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Re: The Thin border between PE and TEA

15 years 1 week ago #1269692387
Anti-Ageing Enhancement with high powered CO2 Fractional Laser Treatments - Part I
The Fraxel treatments are great for two reasons. They however must be performed by an expert who knows what they are doing. I chose the pioneer of this field in French hospitals who fortunately isn't greedy and operates out in the cheaper suburbs, making the cost half that of the posh places in the fancy neighborhoods. His expertise is no doubt also far better.
While I'm not exactly "old" I had just entered my first bout with ageing, looking always far younger than my age it came as a sudden bad surprise. So I went into the sessions properly prepared with an hour of continuous rubbing in of numbing ointment plus a fair dose of prescription opium powder pain pills right before the session. They were not superfluous, as I asked for as effective a treatment as possible and he dialed in some fairly harsh adjustments.
My first session was the entire face and neck and the back of the hands. It was a very long session and he threw in the hands and neck for free, costing me just half the price of a face session in a fancy clinic. He's a nice guy too, you will agree. As soon as he started working he gave me a mirror so I could see the skin retracting like a heated plastic bag. It actually takes the slack out of loose skin, and I had my share as since Easter I lost some 40lbs some of which was also facial fat. (I attribute the weight loss to large doses of DHEA associated with fasting)
It made my face swell all over the place scaring anyone who might look at me. I was almost unrecognizable for several days. However after 5 days the swelling was gone and my skin was showing signs of rejuvenation and a few more days there was no more flaking of the skin. Those who knew me well couldn't believe the change and marveled at how quickly it worked. This however brought focus to other problems, it created smooth skin between wrinkles on the forehead making them more noticeable. And it showed that my eyelids had sagging skin and crows feet that before sort of blended in.
I went in a month later (recommended time to view final result) for a second session this time concentrated on the forehead and eyes only. I didn't swell up nearly as much as he gave me better medication after I showed him a picture of how I had swollen up previously. To work at harsher laser intensity on my upper eyelids he had me wear metal shells over my eyeballs and he really cranked it up so bad that even with 4 opium pills I told him nervously it was at the limit of my pain threshold. This session took about as long to heal even without much swelling, possibly due to the more sensitive skin there. I was half price of the former one. It gave such good results that I am even hesitating to reach perfection with a final finishing session.
The alternative would have been blaperoplasty which is an expensive cosmetic surgery intervention which leaves most patients with quite an unnatural constant stare as if their eyes were left wide open. My results are very natural and cost a fraction of that with less risks, no general anesthesia and shorter recovery time. This use of Fraxel on the eyelids is rare and I was his first attempt. So it might be hard to replicate this procedure elsewhere. I do recommend it if you can get enough painkiller and you have a top notch specialist with magic hands. It is all about the skill of who is at the commands, they must both be expert in dosing the depth and the width of the laser beam rays. An error can be very dangerous especially near the eyes.
I plan to go in for a MILD final session for the eyelids and traces of remaining crow's feet wrinkles visible only when I squint my eyes. But I first need to know when we can safely place a metal protective shell on my eyeball which was just operated for Vision Enhancement.
HC

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Re: The Thin border between PE and TEA

15 years 1 week ago #1269568996
Thanks HC. I already found that link though. I was hoping it was sold in the US.

I'll look further.

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15 years 1 week ago #1269993450

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Re: The Thin border between PE and TEA

15 years 1 week ago #1269790699
Aromatase inhibitors are not what you need HC; especially if you are having symptoms from the shot of T. Have your levels of T (free and bound) checked by your endocrinologist or general practitioner. Estrogen can be our enemy especially as we age but taking an AI while adjusting to an increase in overall T in the body can have profound ramifications. One thing at a time friend.

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Re: The Thin border between PE and TEA

15 years 1 week ago #1269692397
Abdominal tensioning with ultrasound bombardment radiotherapy
It has now been a month since my visit to his colleague at a leading glitzy laser treatment clinic with many other technological methods so that the rich and famous can look their best. There was no way around the higher prices of this location under the Eiffel Tower. Even in the States it was about the same due to the high cost of the machines they use. So I forked out 2000 euros (about $3000) for a three different procedures done on the same morning. A bit more than a third of this cost was for the radiotherapy treatment in this post. That cost is high but must be compared to the far higher surgical costs of the only alternative treatments. Here is what they did and my results after one month.
I was upset because I had lost a lot of weight and some of it was in the stomach. And since this area was far less full, it left me with a sagging skin which normally requires exorbitant abdomenoplasty which leaves horrible scars and takes months to heal while costing upwards of $5000. Instead what this doctor proposed is a treatment with a machine which bombards the abdomen with ultrasounds which destructure the tissues at various specific regularly spaced target points. This causes the abdomen to retract over a ten month period.
This is a fairly painful procedure yet my infamous pills did a lot to help me stay stoic and get them to dial in maximum power. Usually they do only a partial session for the 800 euros, with people needing to pay again to complete it. I was prepared enough and motivated, so they had finished an entire first pass at max power within the time it usually takes them to have patients let them do only a few points. The technician then went on to do a second pass which produced a bit more pain similar to electrical shocks, but I smiled with gritted teeth so she wouldn't give up, and then she summoned the doctor. They said this had never happened before so they'll finish it off with a medium depth signal to better break down the skin in its thickness. This third pass was soon over and we then verified that his other machines were not in use during that same Saturday morning, agreeing to move to further treatments.
I can conclude after only one month that this has already retracted my stomach to far more pleasant and natural proportions. I still have a mild bulge but it is rounded out without any folds or unsightly sags. Even if this was the final result I feel it would have been well worth the cost and pain. By the way the pain sequels lasted for several weeks of burning sensations and irritation, but I felt that it meant that the process was effective and still working away. This is now confirmed and I am happy to know it will keep on getting progressively better.

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Re: The Thin border between PE and TEA

15 years 1 week ago #1269755118
@HC

That's encouraging news my friend. T injections would be my preference and I believe you are on the right track. Pellets would be next followed by transdermal gel. T and DHT are both potent androgens and should never be handled by women (especially pregnant or planning to become pregnant) or children. Most of my friends on TRT who are using Testim' wash the area well before engaging in sexual contact. I would take advantage of your GP's willingness to administer the free shot! Please share your experience with me. My T is 690 so I'm in no need for TRT just yet. Good to hear from you as always. Keep me in the loop.

Miracle7

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Re: The Thin border between PE and TEA

15 years 1 week ago #1269820912
@EP
Actually the forehead got tightened during my first two sessions, the third one wasn't because I had loose skin but because by taking out the slack you noticed a lot more the marks from frowning that make horizontal lines, I've even seen these on guys in their twenties. The normal solution to this is usually botox injected into the muscles which contract and produce them, but it only lasts a year and is overpriced due to patent protection as well as the lack of competition when only certain doctors can inject.
My doctor was helpful and went that extra mile, to try to reduce the skin available for the folds. It is still there a bit as it has only been a week's time, but right after that last photo with it smooth and red I washed it and the flakes came off revealing brand new skin underneath. It is pink and irritated but I continue with the hyaluronic healing cream and in the past three days it has faded to a more normal shade and looks fresh and smooth.
There are still residual lines which do bother me yet, but it takes a full month to see the final result of the retraction and new collagen growth... yes it is collagen also on your face and not just in your pants lol. So I think this might suit our game plan, to reduce the problem to an acceptable level until Botox becomes a generic making future maintenance a cost-effective solution.
HC

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Re: The Thin border between PE and TEA

15 years 1 week ago #1269765618
@briceb
I agree with you that we're engaged in various ways in what is probably the most deep seated and difficult of quests to sort out, those which implicate our manhood. Once you've gotten past that barrier the rest is child play.
Now this doesn't mean that one must go wild and start changing everything about oneself. I am only repairing accident damage, ageing erosion and aspects of weight gain and weight loss. This means I am FIXING stuff and not redoing myself to become somebody else.
That is an important thing to weigh and think about seriously. Once you start re-engineering yourself, as certain plastic surgeons do with their own bodies (Wade told me some even re-sculpt their feet!), then you're in an entirely different game of denying what nature gave you. Sure we do this with our penises through PE, striving for what nature robbed us of.
But this is not just a matter of self-image but one of psychological acceptance of one's body. Then there's the key motivator which is women's triggered desire which makes the sexual experience entirely more fulfilling. So it isn't as if getting your eyebrows lifted is going to get her to orgasm.
General appearance improvements can be a great boost but they must be approached with understanding that they can actually bring the opposite results of what one had hoped for. For example fixing one detail might reveal countless other flaws that detail masked. And there is no such thing as aesthetic perfection.
I even asked my plastic surgeon to leave a flaw in my rhinoplasty full well understanding that it is imperfection which reveals the perfection of the rest (quote from my master who studied at the Bahaus).
HC

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Re: The Thin border between PE and TEA

15 years 1 week ago #1269901051
@Rem
Thanks for the links!

@Miracle7
I'll follow your advice and will be swimming several times a day for the better part of next week. I will stop the Formadrol as per your suggestion.
HC

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