--- title: "I Got My Money Back From Dr. Elist - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "I just got my money back from Dr. Elist office. I cancelled in ample time and did not have the surgery. Again, after seeing the pictures here and reading the..." url: "https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/9935786-i-got-my-money-back-from-dr-elist.html?start=0" date: "2026-08-06T22:29:58+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: I Got My Money Back From Dr. Elist ## Re: I Got My Money Back From Dr. Elist 7 years 8 months ago [\#1306319880](#1306319880) - **[Bm](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6407131-bm.html "View Bm's Profile")** - [![Bm's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6407131-bm.html "View Bm's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6407131-bm.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 20 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6407131) > messageman wrote: Boy, did you ever dodge a bullet. Congratulations. That is what I've heard. I am surprised that no one has Sue him yet or a class action suit hasn't happened Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS85OTM1Nzg2LWktZ290LW15LW1vbmV5LWJhY2stZnJvbS1kci1lbGlzdC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: I Got My Money Back From Dr. Elist 7 years 8 months ago [\#1306511138](#1306511138) - **[sun1](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5640348-sun1.html "View sun1's Profile")** - [![sun1's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5640348-sun1.html "View sun1's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5640348-sun1.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 28 - Thanks: 6 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5640348) > Bm wrote: I just got my money back from Dr. Elist office. I cancelled in ample time and did not have the surgery. Again, after seeing the pictures here and reading the horror stories, I decided to not get it done. However, the things that really stood out to me: (1) I was feeling completely rushed (2) The surgery itself didn't look safe (3) When I asked the tougher questions, it seemed as if there was no real answer (4) When I did get in contact with someone, it was by email only (5) The length and Girth gains appear to only come after a year of decreased Erect length (6) The surgery itself is way too invasive, if I'm going to get it done, I'd rather have a pump to control the erections. You don't know how lucky you are. I only wish I had done the same! Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS85OTM1Nzg2LWktZ290LW15LW1vbmV5LWJhY2stZnJvbS1kci1lbGlzdC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: I Got My Money Back From Dr. Elist 7 years 8 months ago [\#1306397257](#1306397257) - **[Mustang2020](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile")** - [![Mustang2020's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1795 - Thanks: 18 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1715850) Beverly Hills is way over rated in many ways, it is just BS...Sure, there are some good things about it, but his office is nothing to even mention, let alone elist's white gown he wears, I have never seen ANY Dr in my life (even in the African desert) with such a dirty yellowish Dr cloths...that alone should have been my warning sign.....Sigh! Many elist victims in the past had infections due to un-sanitary operating conditions and due to elist him self not being clean, seems like later the infection rate had dropped down but the end result continues to be the same...Removal with disastrous results! 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I cancelled in ample time and did not have the surgery. Again, after seeing the pictures here and reading the horror stories, I decided to not get it done. However, the things that really stood out to me: (1) I was feeling completely rushed (2) The surgery itself didn't look safe (3) When I asked the tougher questions, it seemed as if there was no real answer (4) When I did get in contact with someone, it was by email only (5) The length and Girth gains appear to only come after a year of decreased Erect length (6) The surgery itself is way too invasive, if I'm going to get it done, I'd rather have a pump to control the erections. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS85OTM1Nzg2LWktZ290LW15LW1vbmV5LWJhY2stZnJvbS1kci1lbGlzdC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: I Got My Money Back From Dr. Elist 7 years 8 months ago [\#1306319217](#1306319217) - **[messageman](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1722700-messageman.html "View messageman's Profile")** - [![messageman's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1722700.jpg?1309009799)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1722700-messageman.html "View messageman's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1722700-messageman.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 738 - Thanks: 10 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1722700) Boy, did you ever dodge a bullet. Congratulations. 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If you settle out of court before trial there is no public record and I am sure a non-disclosure agreement. But even if you settle out of court, there has to be a public record of a settlement. I mean, I saw those pictures and it looked crazy Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS85OTM1Nzg2LWktZ290LW15LW1vbmV5LWJhY2stZnJvbS1kci1lbGlzdC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: I Got My Money Back From Dr. Elist 7 years 8 months ago [\#1306511235](#1306511235) - **[sun1](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5640348-sun1.html "View sun1's Profile")** - [![sun1's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5640348-sun1.html "View sun1's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5640348-sun1.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 28 - Thanks: 6 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5640348) > Bm wrote: > That is what I've heard. I am surprised that no one has Sue him yet or a class action suit hasn't happened I believe someone has filed a complaint about him with the California medical board. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS85OTM1Nzg2LWktZ290LW15LW1vbmV5LWJhY2stZnJvbS1kci1lbGlzdC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: I Got My Money Back From Dr. Elist 7 years 8 months ago [\#1306493071](#1306493071) - **[Bm](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6407131-bm.html "View Bm's Profile")** - [![Bm's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6407131-bm.html "View Bm's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6407131-bm.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 20 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6407131) > Reklaw wrote: You've saved yourself from Hell. It's like I said, the thing that did it for me was the horror stories and the fact that the surgery appeared to be rushed just to get me in there Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS85OTM1Nzg2LWktZ290LW15LW1vbmV5LWJhY2stZnJvbS1kci1lbGlzdC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: I Got My Money Back From Dr. Elist 7 years 8 months ago [\#1306493082](#1306493082) - **[Bm](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6407131-bm.html "View Bm's Profile")** - [![Bm's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6407131-bm.html "View Bm's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6407131-bm.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 20 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6407131) > Mustang2020 wrote: > Absolutely!!!!! > > Other elist victims have lost tens of thousands of US dollars and are still suffering physically and psychologically... > > Bm, you don't know how lucky you are!!!!! I wish I had some one to stop me over 9 years ago! > > If this board had helped you change your mind, it is great and may you will help in some ways!!! I've already talked two friends of mine out of getting the surgery! I believe in paying it forward Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS85OTM1Nzg2LWktZ290LW15LW1vbmV5LWJhY2stZnJvbS1kci1lbGlzdC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: I Got My Money Back From Dr. Elist 7 years 8 months ago [\#1306322853](#1306322853) - **[Reklaw](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile")** - [![Reklaw's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1361 - Thanks: 3 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4324840) You've saved yourself from Hell. 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I actually walked out of his office for 2 hours and said I needed time to discuss it with my wife....Something just didn't feel right. Especially that small hole in the wall office. One reason I trusted Elist was his Beverley Hills office address. It is nothing but a front. Glad you listened to your gut.....I ignored mine. I was really excited to get it done and was convinced that this was the only way. I got there and it seemed as if they immediately scheduled me for surgery. I felt rushed. Then when I tried to do individual research, I came up with all of these terrible stories and lastly, it just didn't feel right and I went with my gut, which was to cancel the surgery in ample time Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS85OTM1Nzg2LWktZ290LW15LW1vbmV5LWJhY2stZnJvbS1kci1lbGlzdC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: I Got My Money Back From Dr. Elist 7 years 8 months ago [\#1306493104](#1306493104) - **[Bm](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6407131-bm.html "View Bm's Profile")** - [![Bm's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6407131-bm.html "View Bm's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6407131-bm.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 20 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6407131) > Mustang2020 wrote: Beverly Hills is way over rated in many ways, it is just BS...Sure, there are some good things about it, but his office is nothing to even mention, let alone elist's white gown he wears, I have never seen ANY Dr in my life (even in the African desert) with such a dirty yellowish Dr cloths...that alone should have been my warning sign.....Sigh! > > Many elist victims in the past had infections due to un-sanitary operating conditions and due to elist him self not being clean, seems like later the infection rate had dropped down but the end result continues to be the same...Removal with disastrous results! WOW...'!!!!!! Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS85OTM1Nzg2LWktZ290LW15LW1vbmV5LWJhY2stZnJvbS1kci1lbGlzdC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9MA==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: I Got My Money Back From Dr. Elist 7 years 8 months ago [\#1306338498](#1306338498) - **[zabra](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4925800-zabra.html "View zabra's Profile")** - [![zabra's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4925800-zabra.html "View zabra's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4925800-zabra.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4925800) > Bm wrote: > That is what I've heard. I am surprised that no one has Sue him yet or a class action suit hasn't happened When I went through with the surgery, I also felt rushed. I actually walked out of his office for 2 hours and said I needed time to discuss it with my wife....Something just didn't feel right. Especially that small hole in the wall office. One reason I trusted Elist was his Beverley Hills office address. It is nothing but a front. Glad you listened to your gut.....I ignored mine. 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I am surprised that no one has Sue him yet or a class action suit hasn't happened I am inclined to believe that people have sued him or threatened to do so. If you settle out of court before trial there is no public record and I am sure a non-disclosure agreement. 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