--- title: "FFT then HA? - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "I'm scheduled for HA injections end of march, but contemplated FFT -w/ prp. I read that the more fat you have injected the less likelihood of survival - as the..." url: "https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8411646-fft-then-ha.html" date: "2026-08-06T18:39:14+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: FFT then HA? ## Re: FFT then HA? 9 years 5 months ago [\#1303823616](#1303823616) - - !['s Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5653724) First procedure in 2016. Over 100cc was used. My penis looked like a balloon it was so swollen no PRP was used. Not sure about micro fat. Was told it was a fat transfer/stem cell. Procedure. 2nd procedure 6 months later by different doctor done to improve aesthetics only 12cc was used which included 3 cc of prp Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS84NDExNjQ2LWZmdC10aGVuLWhhLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## FFT then HA? 9 years 5 months ago [\#1294803991](#1294803991) - **[Dickwitman](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4646846-dickwitman.html "View Dickwitman's Profile")** - [![Dickwitman's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4646846-dickwitman.html "View Dickwitman's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4646846-dickwitman.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 139 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4646846) I'm scheduled for HA injections end of march, but contemplated FFT -w/ prp. I read that the more fat you have injected the less likelihood of survival - as the fat cannot get a good blood supply. Would it make more sense to have a small amount of FFT/PRP first then HA? I dont have the sack to do PMMA... 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So if you aren't overly aggressive with the amount injected, shouldn't it survive - and you aren't putting foreign material in the body. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS84NDExNjQ2LWZmdC10aGVuLWhhLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: FFT then HA? 9 years 5 months ago [\#1294867774](#1294867774) - **[Reklaw](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile")** - [![Reklaw's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1361 - Thanks: 3 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4324840) . Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS84NDExNjQ2LWZmdC10aGVuLWhhLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: FFT then HA? 9 years 5 months ago [\#1294807358](#1294807358) - **[Reklaw](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile")** - [![Reklaw's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1361 - Thanks: 3 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4324840) Is not about weather it survives or not, it's about the fact that it will go lumpy and look/feel hideously unnatural. At least with PMMA once you get a lump/Nodule it stays there If you have FFT you may get a lump, spend a year trying to deal with that, successfully get rid of it only for another lump to appear somewhere completely different soon after, and this may go on for 20 years, because fat is a completely unstable substance to have in the subcutaneous layer. At least with HA you can correct any issues in 24 hours using hyalauronidaise and more HA. Ellanse is almost guaranteed to look and feel more natural than fat because it's a stimulatory filler that clings to your dartos and will most likely not move about and feel firm. Seriously man forget about fat, it's a crazy idea. 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Can you remember which amount of fat was injected in your case? And also, was it micro fat? 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My surgeon is quite an expert in this field, I mean not particular in PE but in fat transfer. I had another procedure done, and now thinking of it to improve scarring. I think he would use either 10cc or 20cc if I remember it correctly. Still undecided...anyway , hope your situation will improve! 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Wouldn't it help prevent the issue instead of pure FFT. Since their are merits with prp and stem cells Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS84NDExNjQ2LWZmdC10aGVuLWhhLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: FFT then HA? 9 years 5 months ago [\#1294807232](#1294807232) - **[mat744](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4364085-mat744.html "View mat744's Profile")** - [![mat744's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4364085-mat744.html "View mat744's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4364085-mat744.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 109 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4364085) i think the gradually built up with fat would certainly work better that injecting huge amount at once as they are use to do. don t know at which point it really works well or not in term of foreign body i would not be to worried with HA .. this is a substance naturally present in your body and not something as dodgy as PMMA or others .. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS84NDExNjQ2LWZmdC10aGVuLWhhLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: FFT then HA? 9 years 5 months ago [\#1303816655](#1303816655) - - !['s Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5653724) I had fat/stem cell transfer. Led to believe that 'his method' was better ..no centrifuge, small cannula etc etc. Guess what Reklaw is correct. A year and a half later lumps (one large one ) that Morgsnstern has fixed but a few more smaller ones have appeared. At least go to someone who acknowledges that this will probably happen , and ask how they will fix , and how many they have done ..I wouldn't have it done again. Too much money and time spent In hindsight if I chose FFT. I would use Dr Giunta based on his experience or Morganstern since I know he knows how to deal with lumps .. But probably would save my money Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS84NDExNjQ2LWZmdC10aGVuLWhhLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: FFT then HA? 9 years 5 months ago [\#1294806516](#1294806516) - **[Reklaw](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile")** - [![Reklaw's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html "View Reklaw's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4324840-reklaw.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 1361 - Thanks: 3 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4324840) Why on earth would you consider fat ? It has the worst track record of any filler. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS84NDExNjQ2LWZmdC10aGVuLWhhLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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