--- title: "HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Skeptical One and members, I am a doctor providing injectable penis augmentation with HA in Australia. So remember to take... - Page 23" url: "https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/8050915-ha-injectable-phalloplasty-for-safety.html?start=330" date: "2026-08-06T22:29:35+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety ## Re: HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety 9 years 9 months ago [\#1293830441](#1293830441) - **[Dr\_Oates](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile")** - [![Dr_Oates's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar4460953.jpg?1569480001)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 688 - Thanks: 51 - - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4460953) > jogift wrote: Please Doc, should there be concerns about "webbing" in HA procedure, can there be migration into the scrotum? HA does not migrate that much. That being said, for someone with a big web it may be better to get that fixed first. The more minor ones where I have injected were not an issue. 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But we do have a guy coming back for a second lot of 20ml. We just dont have experience on how long that much would last. It would take 4 sessions - at least you could say after each session if that was enough. Thats very disappointing, i hope someone would know. I plan on getting 10cc at a time until i get to 100cc idk hiw it will affect me or how long it will taje toabsorb Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS84MDUwOTE1LWhhLWluamVjdGFibGUtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWZvci1zYWZldHkuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMzMA==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety 9 years 9 months ago [\#1293840006](#1293840006) - **[Dr\_Oates](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile")** - [![Dr_Oates's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar4460953.jpg?1569480001)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 688 - Thanks: 51 - - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4460953) Indi, This is a very new field. It is hard enough getting information on how long it lasts in the face and being able to compare 1 brand to another after almost 20yrs. To know you would have to inject at least 10 people with each brand and then wait for years with regular follow up. It sounds easy but not so in practice. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS84MDUwOTE1LWhhLWluamVjdGFibGUtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWZvci1zYWZldHkuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMzMA==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety 9 years 9 months ago [\#1293875285](#1293875285) - **[member](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4612592-member.html "View member's Profile")** - [![member's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4612592-member.html "View member's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4612592-member.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 11 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4612592) i just got back from Sydney after getting second treatment. 23ml HA shaft and 3ml gland. first treatment was 3 months ago 18ml shaft and 3ml gland HA so getting up there in volume now will be interesting to see how it behaves over time. i will post photos up in about a week or two once every thing is settled down. 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So i assumed you had it for 6 months now? How much will you get next time? Im a bit confused on how long its lasts and how much to get. 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That makes Oz and even less likely option. Wish this was in Europe. 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In answer to your question of sharing, yes, by all means, do share my pictures. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS84MDUwOTE1LWhhLWluamVjdGFibGUtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWZvci1zYWZldHkuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMzMA==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety 9 years 9 months ago [\#1293895814](#1293895814) - **[Dr\_Oates](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile")** - [![Dr_Oates's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar4460953.jpg?1569480001)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 688 - Thanks: 51 - - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4460953) > Dexterphall wrote: Not sure on CC's but yeah , didn't realize it was a gradual build up material like PMMA. > > That makes Oz and even less likely option. > > Wish this was in Europe. Yes we found that it gives better results to do a couple of sessions. For overseas patients we have done them 5 days apart but that may not be idea. Hopefully in the next 12 mths we will have some international clinics. 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OK Big Dave here they are. Let me know if you thing the zooming is the right amount, the original pictures are way different sizes. Dont want to be over promising. Obviously some good reversal of Turtling there. Was this immediately after the injection (done in Sydney) Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS84MDUwOTE1LWhhLWluamVjdGFibGUtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWZvci1zYWZldHkuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMzMA==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: HA injectable Phalloplasty - for safety 9 years 8 months ago [\#1293904496](#1293904496) - **[Dr\_Oates](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile")** - [![Dr_Oates's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar4460953.jpg?1569480001)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html "View Dr_Oates's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/4460953-dr-oates.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 688 - Thanks: 51 - - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4460953) More pics, actually should have zoomed out a little on the after, 2cm increase in Girth. 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