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#  TOPIC: Why do fat grafts and PMMA harden? Could it be treated? (+DMSO Discussion)

##  Re: Why do fat grafts and PMMA harden? Could it be treated? (+DMSO Discussion)

   11 years 2 months ago [\#1287620495](#1287620495)

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 Do you guys think maybe you should inform Dr. Casavantes, so maybe he can suggest to future patients who are freaking out. I know I'd be one of those. Soon anyway.

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##  Re: Why do fat grafts and PMMA harden? Could it be treated? (+DMSO Discussion)

   11 years 2 months ago [\#1287333520](#1287333520)

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 Glad your doing better Red.

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##  Re: Why do fat grafts and PMMA harden? Could it be treated? (+DMSO Discussion)

   11 years 2 months ago [\#1287314337](#1287314337)

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 I think cortisone should be injected and only once every couple of months. I wouldn't think you could deliver it with DMSO, but it depends on the molecular weight.

I used DMSO 3 times daily for a couple of months. A syringe full would last 2 or 3 days and then it would need refilling. Sometimes I'd mix with iodine and sometimes ACV. My skin would get very red and flaky sometimes if I used too strong of a concentration, but it never caused any real damage and would easily heal.

I don't think you really want to dissolve it anyway, more soften it. My scar tissue is now very soft and I'm glad it's there as it gives me a bit more Girth. But prior to using DMSO it was like a rock hard lump on the side of penis for about a year and I hated it.

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##  Re: Why do fat grafts and PMMA harden? Could it be treated? (+DMSO Discussion)

   11 years 2 months ago [\#1287327657](#1287327657)

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> Restoration wrote: Do you know if ACV (vinegar) or iodine make more sense for this situation? Is iodine more for dissolving fat?

I always think its the DMSO that is having the main effect. Once i squirted some on the wall by accident and it took the paint off! I just added the other stuff as I read online that is how people use it to soften scar tissue.

It doesn't dissolve fat. If it did that no one would ever get liposuction. It would be one of the best selling products in the world.

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##  Re: Why do fat grafts and PMMA harden? Could it be treated? (+DMSO Discussion)

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 WOW - HUGE difference after only 2 days of DMSO/ACV, emu oil and castor oil 3 times a day. The swelling and bulging is completely gone and only a small portion of the "turtle shell" is still palpable when soft. When Erect it's still visible but not nearly as bad as it was 2 days ago.

Thanks Hoddle I am so grateful! This has saved me a trip to Tj.

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##  Re: Why do fat grafts and PMMA harden? Could it be treated? (+DMSO Discussion)

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 Wow. I have to try this asap.

Which brand of DMSO did you use? Did you get it off amazon or what's the best source?

I can't believe this is more effective than injected Kenalog! That's crazy...and great. Hopefully I can avoid excisions too. Once this stuff softens - I am never going back for more...not after this round. Anyone here has permission to kill me if I do.

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##  Re: Why do fat grafts and PMMA harden? Could it be treated? (+DMSO Discussion)

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> Restoration wrote: Red, cortisone applied like that could thin the skin &amp; probably is unlikely to reach the nodules. They are fairly deep, since they are under the skin and the first layer of fascia. So, the cortisone would probably just sit on the skin. Even when directly injected, cortisone (as Kenalog) isn't that effective.
>
> I've never used DMSO for anything - but the comments about it are interesting on various sites. It's really promising that you managed to soften your scar tissue with it.
>
> I'm guessing the UK has different brands and sources of this - but is there any you'd recommend? I'm thinking just to look on amazon.
>
> Is the worst that could happen just redness? I remember reading something about how it can facilitate the movement of chemicals into the skin, but I don't really get it. If the molecule is too big, it won't go under the skin (and the fascia). It sounds like DMSO is definitely penetrating. Do you think it was definitely that or just the fact that so much time went by? What I've read is that fat grafts rarely soften up once they reach the hard state, so I'm thinking it was that.
>
> I'd be so happy if there was an easy way to soften this stuff up without any more trips to TJ or injections (that don't work...I don't think). It's turning into quite a freakish situation...at least Flaccid. Erect, only one of them sticks out for now...and the other big one I just had cut out.

I used Jacobs Labs DMSO, which is American. I bought the 100% stuff and sucked 4 ml into a 5ml syringe. The other 1 ml would usually be iodine. You might have to play with the right mix, as like I said, it can irritate the skin and really sting. You might find you need more iodine or a touch of distilled water to dilute it a bit. I would suggest the 70% stuff but one of our member spoke to a chemist who said that wouldn't be strong enough.

I'm 100% convinced it was the DMSO. It'd had this hard lump for a year and then within a couple of weeks if using DMSO I noticed a difference. At first I thought it was a placebo effect, but it soon became apparent that it was getting softer. You can probably tell from my posts that I'm a real skeptic by nature and try and talk people out of most things. Yet over the years I've mentioned DMSO quite a few times and it's because I was so shocked and pleased at how well it worked.

But you need to be careful. Always make sure you penis is clean before applying and that the DMSO had absorbed and the skin is dry before letting it touch your clothes. I'd walk round naked for 10 minutes when I did it. So often I could only do it twice a day, when I got up and before bed. I gets quite annoying after a while.

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##  Re: Why do fat grafts and PMMA harden? Could it be treated? (+DMSO Discussion)

   11 years 2 months ago [\#1287312847](#1287312847)

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 Check with Dr C first to make sure it's okay, but I really think DMSO would take care of this issue. Mix it with some iodine or apple cider vinegar. I had some rock hard lumps after surgery that wouldn't go away. Then I used DMSO and though the tissue is still there, it's now very soft. Just stick with it for several months.

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##  Re: Why do fat grafts and PMMA harden? Could it be treated? (+DMSO Discussion)

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 Thanks Red - I'm gonna use less &amp; just soak the q-tip more and do it that way. Where do you mix it? I've been reading how dmso absorbs everything &amp; I think my glasses would have Jetdry residue on them or something lol... I don't even know.

This is gonna sound crazy, but I think one of the nodules is smaller...after 2 applications yesterday. This was in the same area where the pain sensation went away and also where i used the q-tip to massage it for a little while after. Then, when it was dry, I massaged the Nodule a little more with my fingers. I swear it is smaller now - but maybe I'm hallucinating from the placebo effect. The others didn't really change much, but I didn't put too much on those or massage them.

I did get a red patch of skin that lasted through to today still- not even where the Nodule went down. Just on one of the firm areas on top. The skin might be more sensitive there or maybe too much liquid got on that spot.

Are you still doing it and still improving?

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##  Re: Why do fat grafts and PMMA harden? Could it be treated? (+DMSO Discussion)

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 Does PMMA slowly harden in general?

I actually would hope for it, i want a harder Dick, my PMMA is squishy.

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##  Re: Why do fat grafts and PMMA harden? Could it be treated? (+DMSO Discussion)

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 I'm so pleased about that. It just always made sense to me that DMSO would be great for dealing with lumps etc with PMMA.

I wonder if it's worth using even if you don't have any specific lumps or hard areas. Obviously if your penis already feels completely natural then it's not worth trying. But many say they can feel the material. As I mentioned with me scar tissue, it didn't dissolve it, but softened it to the point I'm glad it's there as it feels totally like normal penis, only it gives me a tad more Girth. If I'd have PMMA, I'd be tempted to us DMSO for a month, to see if it can make the tissue feel more natural and just smooth everything out.

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##  Re: Why do fat grafts and PMMA harden? Could it be treated? (+DMSO Discussion)

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 Yeah I'm on Doxy for 3 weeks. just over a week in so far. I'm also cleaning up my diet as that helped the last time I had a flare up. No yeast, dairy, sugar, caffeine etc. I do lemon juice and baking soda every morning and loading up on probiotics. I also use coconut oil on the implant 3 times a day. Fingers crossed.

I couldn't use the allopurinol because it caused my joint s to flare up big time. Altho if I go back to Tj again for Ken. injections I will ask if he can Rx it again and gibe it another shot.

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##  Re: Why do fat grafts and PMMA harden? Could it be treated? (+DMSO Discussion)

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 I just use a very thin coating of the DMSO/ACV from the Q-tip. For me there isn't even enough for it to dribble. The soaked Q-tip should be enough as this stuff is pretty strong.

Glad you are already noticing some positive effects! This might just be very good news for many of us who have had PMMA implants.

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##  Re: Why do fat grafts and PMMA harden? Could it be treated? (+DMSO Discussion)

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##  Re: Why do fat grafts and PMMA harden? Could it be treated? (+DMSO Discussion)

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