--- title: "PMMA Pricing Conversation - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "This is just to carry on the conversation from Kingpin's progress thread. There are a lot of people that are complaining about the... - Page 3" url: "https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6617419-pmma-pricing-conversation.html?start=30" date: "2026-08-06T14:55:07+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: PMMA Pricing Conversation ## Re: PMMA Pricing Conversation 12 years 8 months ago [\#1280347781](#1280347781) - **[Mustang2020](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile")** - [![Mustang2020's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1795 - Thanks: 18 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1715850) It is possible to think that Dr C initially had UNDERCHARGED patients to attract business and now he is charging a reasonable and a fair market price....I like this better...LOL! Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS82NjE3NDE5LXBtbWEtcHJpY2luZy1jb252ZXJzYXRpb24uaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA Pricing Conversation 12 years 8 months ago [\#1280349577](#1280349577) - **[briceb](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1725992-briceb.html "View briceb's Profile")** - [![briceb's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1725992.jpg?1571843684)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1725992-briceb.html "View briceb's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1725992-briceb.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1484 - Thanks: 17 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1725992) > SpankAss wrote: people pay the same thing for 3 rounds now matter how many ccs .... UNFAIR ... I will liken this to going to an all you can eat buffet. Everyone pays the same price for the buffet. I may eat one plate of food. The guy behind me eats two. The guy behind him eats six. Is that unfair? Not at all. 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There are only so many of these he can perform on a given day. > > If he only has availability for 6 (just an example) procedures (including the other parts of his practice) but has 10 that want to see him, he has a surplus of patients. > If he drops the price, he still has time to see the same number of people, but now he has a higher surplus of patients, generating a lower income. > If he raises the price and drops his demand by 20%, he still has the same time, same 6 patients, but these generate a higher income (and still has a slight surplus) > > We have to keep in mind that this is not the one and only part of his practice. He has many patients that come to him for other services not even remotely related to penile enhancement. Yea but lets face it he dont have a high a demand for the other procedures. most of his patient are for penile enhancement. there might be a few a very few for other procedures. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS82NjE3NDE5LXBtbWEtcHJpY2luZy1jb252ZXJzYXRpb24uaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA Pricing Conversation 12 years 8 months ago [\#1280345748](#1280345748) - **[SpankAss](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2082404-spankass.html "View SpankAss's Profile")** - [![SpankAss's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2082404-spankass.html "View SpankAss's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2082404-spankass.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 89 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2082404) > briceb wrote: > dcpimpin12 wrote: Yea but lets face it he dont have a high a demand for the other procedures. most of his patient are for penile enhancement. there might be a few a very few for other procedures. > > > What makes you say he does not have a demand for other procedures? > If, according to some, this site is responsible for his high demand for penis enlargement, then what did he do before this board got to where it is now? Yep, his other services. ofc course he had other services but not to the demand that PMMA has and again i love the fact some of you bash us for having our own opinion or one that is not the same as you just cause we visit the same forum or even because we have had the same surgery done or w/e. so I cant think or say I feel his price increase was to drastic? I have to follow what every other forum member who loves him thinks? i am not complaining but rather stating my opinion on his business practices and the fact i dont agree with them in full. I agree a price increase based on certain factors is fine but if your doing it purely because you see easy way or taking advantage of the situation when desperate people are willing to pay then I PERSONALLY think that is not morally or ethically wrong. I have never stated he wasnt allowed to do it or that its not a business thing. And I def feel some of the price increased is due to his costs going up but I also see the other part which is a huge price increase being put because he saw desperate guys who would pay almost anything so he saw that he could take advantage of the situation and he did and that is def reflected in the huge price increase. 3 rds now costs 5500 and you can get other procedures for Girth in the US for 6k now and god forbid something happen down the line because at least in the US we can sue for malpractice. Can we do anything to him in TJ. Even if you dont get the case won like some people did against Dr Elitist at least they could try but in TJ they cant. Who knows what PMMA will do in 10 years, who knows anything period as of yet. All i am saying is stop complaining that any of us who are complaining and who think a diff opinion on his price increase then you because thats how we feel and only our opinions .... he can do w/e he wants. I am sure that price increase has already lost him alot of business due to the fact not all can afford 5500 and to get only 1 or 2 rounds might not work for some people chill out if someone doesnt agree with you or says something they feel about your savior that you dont agree with dont just sit there and tell them there wrong > Mustang2020 wrote: I really think Dr. C is a very caring person (also Nurse Wade and the staff) but that does not mean he will not practice sound business and selfish actions to make more money, heck we all will do that given the opportunity... > > I think some of us here need to accept the fact that Dr C is a good guy and he makes a profit doing his business. completley agree with you on what you said but at the same time but why cant we disagree with price or state that its to large in a increase and also I can def see its all about money. we have accepted the fact of the increase but doesnt mean we have to like it or agree with it and we def can voice it thats all i beleive some of us are saying Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS82NjE3NDE5LXBtbWEtcHJpY2luZy1jb252ZXJzYXRpb24uaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA Pricing Conversation 12 years 8 months ago [\#1280318869](#1280318869) - **[Skeptical\_One](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")** - [![Skeptical_One's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1704847.png?1781856569)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 4979 - Thanks: 613 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704847) @Spankass lol I somehow missed your paragraph asserting Dr. Loria should have remained non-transparent about things he would inject into our dicks. I'm not even sure how to respond to that. Not even sure how Loria entered the equation Take his ideas? What ideas? Do you know what in the hell you are talking about? Have you even kept up with the Dr. Loria situation? Do you know Bluemale stated, and I quote "After going through this process and seeing two types of doctors I only wished I started with these guys. Word to those reading this and considering this procedure. Be smart. Have goals. I would Stay away from Loria". Two members have reported visiting Dr. Loria for work. Both have followed up with Dr. Casavantes for Revision work. Both have praised Dr. C and gave a vote of no confidence for Dr. Loria. This, despite Dr. Loria costing more than Dr. Casavantes. I just re-read your entire posting and to be quite frank, either you were typing it sleep-deprived or you are extremely naive for someone who has been around the forum longer than average. The posting makes no rational case for objecting to a price change, and all you did was admit to being (literally) cheap despite making a healthy income. You type with almost a sense of entitlement for a lower price or discount, and I can assure you that attitude wont get you a better deal. I can see it now: "Spankass on phone with Avanti Derma: Ok how much for an appointment? Receptionist: $2500 for the first appointment. Spankass: $2500!? Listen, you guys are in Mexico, I can find it for half the price there. Receptionist: Yes, maybe, but Dr. C is a world-renowned bioplastician who is very experienced. Spankass: He's just sticking a needle into a penis, how about $1,000? Receptionist: I BEG your pardon? Spankass: Fine, the original price of $1500 I think is a fair one. Receptionist: Sorry we do not negotiate prices, our first time appointment is $2500. Spankass: $1750. Receptionist: :: remains quiet :: Spankass: :: remains quiet :: Receptionist: If it makes you feel better, your follow up appointments reduce in price each time. Spankass: Give me your follow-up appointment rates. Receptionist: Our second appointment goes for $2,000, however I cannot charge you that now. Spankass: 2,000 is too much, are you guys crazy? $1850 is my final offer and I'll pay in cash! Receptionist: Click. Give me a break ... 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UNFAIR ... also increasing all 3 rounds was a bit to much as well...costs of the product dont justify that large of a increase and you all keep saying which such proven results ... yes results NOW what about 10 or 20 years from now when our cocks are falling off lol. Cant say this is a sure fire thing yet until you see long term affects ...its still a experimental procedure which usually doesnt cost what a proven procedure would cost Do you even read the forum? Are you even remotely aware of the cost of procedures that are not only unproven, but in most cases proven to be problematic. I think it costs around $10,000 for an Elist implant. FFT costs around $5000. Allografts are around $10,000. Yet all have been shown time and time again to disappoint and often cause serious damage. So even against your latest reasoning, Dr C's prices are still incredibly reasonable. The idea of Dr C's pricing being unfair for charging everyone the same is equally absurd when you consider he is still cheaper than Dr's that charge per CC. Basically he has a price structure that gives better value for money for virtually all his patients and you call it "unfair." We'd all like the price to be lower. Shit, I'd like the price to be lower for everything I pay for. But your arguments for why Dr C should charge less are just ridiculous. You haven't raised a single point which hasn't been soundly addressed yet you still persist in arguing. Basically he is the must by now be the most experience PE PMMA Dr in the world, with by far the greatest exposure and yet charges less than other Dr's offering the same procedure. And you have an issue with this!!!!! 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The dirt cheap are a social bane and as a restaurant server I bust my ass and am not fond of dealing with poor tippers when the service has been excellent. Especially when they come in and are willing to spend $100+ on dinner... they weren't cheap about eating fancy, but couldn't leave even a reasonable tip? So yes, I loathe the willingly cheap. 93$ ticket for dinner Tip: "sorry I do not agree with the way you live your life" lol read about that one? People are fuckin' idiots. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS82NjE3NDE5LXBtbWEtcHJpY2luZy1jb252ZXJzYXRpb24uaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA Pricing Conversation 12 years 8 months ago [\#1280347813](#1280347813) - **[SpankAss](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2082404-spankass.html "View SpankAss's Profile")** - [![SpankAss's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2082404-spankass.html "View SpankAss's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/2082404-spankass.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 89 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=2082404) well then guess i am cheap and frugal so either way glad i am cause i have saved alot of money, cut corners for myself and family, and spent alot on only things that were worth the money and effort if you think someone who is cheap is to be loathed i feel bad for you SO cause being cheap or frugal means little in the eyes of how that person is actually as far as in principals, morals and everything else and your right he is still 500 cheaper then everyone else but as he is not in the states if anything goes wrong nothing not even being able to try can be done while a US doc here in the states i could at least try to get something done its funny cause i stated i am cheap and like to spend my money wisely my opinion is no longer valid lol also how do you know 1500 was him selling the shirt off his back? how do you know he was not still making a profit then? did you see his books? did he tell you and show you the invoices? i highly doubt it and as i also stated already why i feel the increase was to drastic which you overlooked i will state it again people pay the same thing for 3 rounds now matter how many ccs .... UNFAIR ... also increasing all 3 rounds was a bit to much as well...costs of the product dont justify that large of a increase and you all keep saying which such proven results ... yes results NOW what about 10 or 20 years from now when our cocks are falling off lol. Cant say this is a sure fire thing yet until you see long term affects ...its still a experimental procedure which usually doesnt cost what a proven procedure would cost > hoddle10 wrote: This kind of thread is why people say there is a bias to Dr C. There isn't, it's just that some posters make it hard not to go to extremes to defend the guy. kinda is and isnt Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS82NjE3NDE5LXBtbWEtcHJpY2luZy1jb252ZXJzYXRpb24uaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA Pricing Conversation 12 years 8 months ago [\#1280347568](#1280347568) - **[hoddle10](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile")** - [![hoddle10's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 3120 - Thanks: 50 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704891) I should point out that Metacrill costs the patient $128 per ml in Europe. So if Dr C is on average adding an extra 10 ml per session, than the added cost from the original procedure is $1280. So Dr C seems to be under charging. This kind of thread is why people say there is a bias to Dr C. There isn't, it's just that some posters make it hard not to go to extremes to defend the guy. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS82NjE3NDE5LXBtbWEtcHJpY2luZy1jb252ZXJzYXRpb24uaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA Pricing Conversation 12 years 8 months ago [\#1280323250](#1280323250) - **[hoddle10](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile")** - [![hoddle10's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 3120 - Thanks: 50 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704891) But the same can be said of Dr Comacho Melo, yet you've just had surgery with him! Even worse you got the wool pulled over your eyes by Dan Salas. There was a huge argument over at the old PhalloBoards when we heard Dan Salas was trying to work with both Dr C and Dr Comacho-Melo. I even ended up calling Dan a pimp as I was so pissed off with him trying to get involved with those Dr's, as I knew it would lead to prices rocketing. Some people defended Dan and said he was a "good guy" and just offering a service. Yet here we are 2 years later and I was totally right about the impact him sticking his beak in would have. I'm sure he is a good guy, but he's bad for this industry and he isn't needed and just ends up costing everyone money, you personally more than most, only you don't know it. Before Dan came along Dr Comacho Melo was charging just $1500 for the lig cut. Now correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't he now charging $4000 and did you a "favor" by standing by his original quote of $3000. Yet you still believe that poor old Dan doesn't earn anything from these surgeries and just hangs around Mexico for the hell of it! Get real!!! The truth is, just as I warned at the time, as soon as a surgical broker got involved the price more than doubled. You paid exactly double the price Dr C-M was charging back when Dr C was still charging $1500. Yet you complain about Dr C charging an extra $1000, but say nothing about your Dr, Camacho-Melo, charging an extra $2500 ($1500 in your case) and feel bad for Dan! Not long after we discovered Dr C, Dan tried to start working with him and even advertised PMMA on his site, only he charged $2500 for it, rather than the $1500 Dr C charged. Don't you think it's a bit odd, that soon after this Dr C moved his priced up to $2500, but decided not to work with Dan? Dan showed him the demand was still there at a higher price. If you want to blame anyone for the price rises in TJ blame Dan Salas and stop feeling bad about not tipping him for giving you a lift. The guys cost you an extra $1500. 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The dirt cheap are a social bane and as a restaurant server I bust my ass and am not fond of dealing with poor tippers when the service has been excellent. Especially when they come in and are willing to spend $100+ on dinner... they weren't cheap about eating fancy, but couldn't leave even a reasonable tip? So yes, I loathe the willingly cheap. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS82NjE3NDE5LXBtbWEtcHJpY2luZy1jb252ZXJzYXRpb24uaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA Pricing Conversation 12 years 8 months ago [\#1280300751](#1280300751) - **[hoddle10](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile")** - [![hoddle10's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 3120 - Thanks: 50 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704891) But dcpimpin the reason Dr C isn't treated like Loria, Krakovsky or Elist is because he didn't seek out this site as a an avenue of marketing that he didn't have to pay for. I think his business has benefited greatly from PhalloBoards but he has done absolutely nothing to solicit this. The reason for his popularity is purely down to PhalloBoards members. It started with a post by Envisionmore and then GSX was the first pioneer. After that it simply snowballed. Virtually all the PMMA research was done by our members, so we "sold" the procedure to ourselves. All the progress reports were volunteered by our members at the request of other members. Dr C himself had nothing to do with any of this. He's a benefactor certainly, but he didn't come on here touting for business, using shills and shady surgical brokers. I'm sure his prices did go up due to the demand thanks to this site, but he's just reacting to market forces and seeing as he didn't do anything to actively try and promote himself, then he's done nothing wrong in my opinion. Also his prices are lower than Dr N in Prague and I think Dr Passy. So of the 3 main PMMA Dr's spoken about on this site, he is still the cheapest. Also, if you remember when the procedure first started being discussed he said he's use between 10-12cc of PMMA. Now he routinely uses 25cc +. I can't speak on SO's behalf, but I suspect he'd strongly be against any financial relationship between PhalloBoards and any Dr. Even if it's something simple like a discount for our members. The whole he reason he set up the forum is because he and others we absolutely sick to death of being mislead by information found on forums who had financial relationships with certain Dr's. It's imperative that the site remains totally impartial. We don't want situations, for example, when members would become hesitant about criticizing Dr C or asking probing questions if they thought it could cause for him to get annoyed and withdraw his PhalloBoards discount. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS82NjE3NDE5LXBtbWEtcHJpY2luZy1jb252ZXJzYXRpb24uaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA Pricing Conversation 12 years 8 months ago [\#1280347099](#1280347099) - **[hoddle10](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile")** - [![hoddle10's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 3120 - Thanks: 50 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704891) > SpankAss wrote: > briceb wrote: > dcpimpin12 wrote: Yea but lets face it he dont have a high a demand for the other procedures. most of his patient are for penile enhancement. there might be a few a very few for other procedures. > > > > > > What makes you say he does not have a demand for other procedures? > > If, according to some, this site is responsible for his high demand for penis enlargement, then what did he do before this board got to where it is now? Yep, his other services. > > > ofc course he had other services but not to the demand that PMMA has [/QUOTE] But this is what he was known for! When PMMA first came along and many of our members were researching it, Dr C continually came up as one of, if not the, most renowned PMMA Dr in the world. One of the main resources for research we HIV forums and they are full of posts about Dr C's work. All that has changed is due to PhalloBoards he's now getting loads of penis enlargement patients. I think you just want to moan for the sake of it. You've been told that the price of PMMA has risen and that he now uses about twice as much per procedure. So given that, why are you still complaining? If you read makemeheal there are a couple of guys who had PE with Dr C before PhalloBoards and they both had 10cc per round. Our first pioneer, GSX, received 12cc. Yet thesedays it's rare that guys get under 20cc. Surely you can see that he's using double the amount, so why shouldn't he charge more? Also, I've pointed out he's still cheaper than the other 2 PMMA Dr's we regularly discuss. There is one price related issue that I think is worth discussing though and that is second round "touch up" procedures. I don't think it's acceptable that corrective procedures have a limited amount of CC's (5 I believe). Personally I think this is totally wrong and something Dr C should change, without raising the price. If a guy wants more size then of course he should pay for whole second round. However, it all the patient wants is to correct issues from the first procedure, then that patient should receive as many CCs as needed to get the best result Dr C possibly can. Every now and again we see patients being told that Dr C has suggested a full second round in order to totally correct their issues. I really think this has to change. If they aren't requesting more size, then, in my opinion, Dr C should be obligated to fix the problems for the "touch up" price. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS82NjE3NDE5LXBtbWEtcHJpY2luZy1jb252ZXJzYXRpb24uaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA Pricing Conversation 12 years 8 months ago [\#1280347634](#1280347634) - **[dcpimpin12](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1982119-dcpimpin12.html "View dcpimpin12's Profile")** - [![dcpimpin12's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1982119-dcpimpin12.html "View dcpimpin12's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1982119-dcpimpin12.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 316 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1982119) > hoddle10 wrote: > SpankAss wrote: > briceb wrote: > dcpimpin12 wrote: Yea but lets face it he dont have a high a demand for the other procedures. most of his patient are for penile enhancement. there might be a few a very few for other procedures. > > > > > > > > > What makes you say he does not have a demand for other procedures? > > > If, according to some, this site is responsible for his high demand for penis enlargement, then what did he do before this board got to where it is now? Yep, his other services. > > > > > > ofc course he had other services but not to the demand that PMMA has > hoddle10 wrote: But this is what he was known for! When PMMA first came along and many of our members were researching it, Dr C continually came up as one of, if not the, most renowned PMMA Dr in the world. One of the main resources for research we HIV forums and they are full of posts about Dr C's work. All that has changed is due to PhalloBoards he's now getting loads of penis enlargement patients. > > hoddle10 wrote: I think you just want to moan for the sake of it. You've been told that the price of PMMA has risen and that he now uses about twice as much per procedure. So given that, why are you still complaining? If you read makemeheal there are a couple of guys who had PE with Dr C before PhalloBoards and they both had 10cc per round. Our first pioneer, GSX, received 12cc. Yet thesedays it's rare that guys get under 20cc. Surely you can see that he's using double the amount, so why shouldn't he charge more? Also, I've pointed out he's still cheaper than the other 2 PMMA Dr's we regularly discuss. > > > > > > > hoddle10 wrote: There is one price related issue that I think is worth discussing though and that is second round "touch up" procedures. I don't think it's acceptable that corrective procedures have a limited amount of CC's (5 I believe). Personally I think this is totally wrong and something Dr C should change, without raising the price. If a guy wants more size then of course he should pay for whole second round. However, it all the patient wants is to correct issues from the first procedure, then that patient should receive as many CCs as needed to get the best result Dr C possibly can. Every now and again we see patients being told that Dr C has suggested a full second round in order to totally correct their issues. I really think this has to change. If they aren't requesting more size, then, in my opinion, Dr C should be obligated to fix the problems for the "touch up" price. > > > > > > > > yes other doctors might be a little more expensive but in the us... tijuana is known for being cheaper. i mean u go to a dentist over here in the united states and the bill is so high. u go to a dentist in tijuana is way cheaper. even taxi drivers are cheaper in tijuana. plastic surgery is cheaper in tijuana. so PMMA should be cheaper in tijuana. people have to buy plane tickets, hotel, etc... if u go to tijuana for PMMA u wil spend just as much over all as going to a doc that charges 6 thousand. so is it worth the trip? doctors in tijuana have to realize that people coming from out of the country look for special deals to make it worth their trip. 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Surgical PE has had perhaps the worst success record so far, and this PMMA procedure with Dr. C has had the best outcomes, while I understand it, there is a debate about the high price increase. I really think Dr. C is a very caring person (also Nurse Wade and the staff) but that does not mean he will not practice sound business and selfish actions to make more money, heck we all will do that given the opportunity... I think some of us here need to accept the fact that Dr C is a good guy and he makes a profit doing his business. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS82NjE3NDE5LXBtbWEtcHJpY2luZy1jb252ZXJzYXRpb24uaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTMw) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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