stalemango wrote:
carljohnson wrote: That makes sense...thanks for explaining. Safe travels.
Thank you, sir, I arrived safely.
Mustang2020 wrote: SM, I wish you the best of luck with your upcoming healing. Please keep us informed if you so wish.
The problem with elist is that he lies about many problems with his implant, before he puts it in and after he removes it. So far, I think about, again "about", 100% of people who had his implant and reported here have had it removed....you are the last one I know of.
I thought about starting a progress report, but everything has already been said. Yours was a great read and will undoubtedly assist me with the next step. Thank you!
We discussed some of the dynamics regarding the people that message boards attract. 'mjralph33' was another member who was satisfied, but he stopped posting. I disappeared for a couple of years because life was great. I had a big penis and I was enjoying it. Notwithstanding, your point is valid: the overwhelming majority of people who opted for the implant here have had it removed.
messageman wrote: When I was going through the turmoil of having my implant removed, I remember how thankful I was to Dr. Elist for helping me (to remove it)...completely forgetting that it was he who lied and tricked me into getting it in the first place. I liken the feeling I had for for him to the "Stockholm Syndrome"...This is a psychological phenomenon in which hostages express empathy and sympathy and have positive feelings toward their captors, sometimes to the point of defending them. These feelings are generally considered irrational in light of the danger or risk endured by the victims, who essentially mistake a lack of abuse from their captors for an act of kindness. It was only months afterwards I realized how mistreated I was and dare to post about it. I was also very worried to breathe a negative word about him or the procedure through the whole process (from the implant being put it) to the crisis of infection and having it removed, for fear of retribution. Simply, he was the only man in the world basically who knew how to treat it and, if need be, remove it. I don't write the following lightly: The man is a sociopath and must be stopped. He has permanently injured countless men, luring them into this extremely risky procedure with blatant lies.
There isn't any Stockholm syndrome going on here, as I am neither defending Dr. Elist nor advocating the implant. I'm simply sharing my experience. When I said some of the criticisms were earned by Dr. Elist, that was me acknowledging the negative experiences.
You know, messageman, you're one of the few men I would give a complete pass to (and permit me to assure other victims that I genuinely don't mean any disrespect, discourtesy or insensitivity). When you underwent surgery for the implant, you didn't have the resources available to you that a lot of us have now. I have a folder full of posts I saved prior to visiting Dr. Elist. I was on the old forums when: (i) 'silicon disaster' posted his photographs of the implant forcing its way out of the penis (there was literally a hole in the man's penis); (ii) 'Motion of the Ocean' posted photographs of his penis which had an incision on the top of it where the implant was inserted instead of through the pubic area (he suddenly stopped posting and we never heard from him again); (iii) the suture on 'moejondo's' implant popped and he had a sharp edge sticking out (we never heard from him again); and (iv) 'londonlad' expressed criticism of the implant, posted articles backing up his findings and promoted thought provoking discussions only to be silenced by the owners of MNS. I was aware of the infections, cone shape, loss of length, etc. Still yet, I went for the surgery because I accepted those risks. I had the mindset similar to women getting breast implants before the procedure became mainstream. I understood that I may lose feeling similar to women losing feeling in their nipples, that I may need a
Revision in several years, that it may be painful, etc. I saw the implant surgery as no different than the drug advertisements you see on television where the manufacturer mentions a laundry list of side effects in small print. Sure, the downsides of the implant are outright brutal; however, when you're as small as I was, and more importantly, screwed up in the head as I was, the surgery was an acceptable risk. There were a lot of influences which caused me to opt for the surgery, but there was never a point when Jack Napier, Dr. Elist or any of my former partners held a gun to my head and told me I needed to have it. Anytime during: (i) my six hour flight, (ii) the day I spent in LA prior to meeting Dr. Elist or (iii) the millennium he had me waiting at the surgery center before he decided to show up, I could have bailed, and I didn't. I didn't want to.
My main beef with Dr. Elist was the lack of post-surgical instruction. Had I not had the forums with access to the many members who had the surgery previously, I would have been scared to death. THANK GOODNESS FOR THE FORUMS (I'll donate shortly because men NEED resources such as this one to make an informed decision)!! While I had access to all of the phone numbers and e-mails to get in contact with Dr. Elist and his assistant, a heads up would about the pain, swelling and bleeding would have been most appreciated. As an example, I wasn't aware that I would have a drain until after I woke up and saw it. I didn't even know what it was. That was my fault, as I should have done more research regarding post-surgical care, but I was so obsessed with the thought of having a big penis that I never even considered it (I never had a real surgery before). I didn't know about the shower head my penis turned into after urinating, the wrapping requirement or the ring of pain around the front of my shaft after climaxing for the first few months. When I was at his office filling out the forms prior to surgery, he had me initial a list of potential downsides which can occur as a result of the surgery (I don't remember if I saw that form three years ago). He also told me about length loss before I even asked him about it. Should he take more time to explain the procedure and its downsides? Yes, definitely! Considering his haste, the patients who opt for his implant without performing the necessary due diligence are in for quite the surprise.
After everything I've been through these last couple of years (i.e., the positive experiences with the ladies and downsides of the implant), there isn't a thing I would change; however, that reveals more about me than Dr. Elist. I thought about going for the new implant (surprisingly, Dr. Elist never mentioned it to me), but I decided to have it removed and see how my penis was instead (i.e., whether or not I'll retain any
Girth (Dr. Elist said I would)). These days, penis size doesn't even matter to me anymore.
