TOPIC: How to get a better esthetic outcome (less lumps and irregularities) after penile PMMA injection??

Excellent thread! In fact i had the same idea for a thread but didn't bother to realize one since i decided to turn PMMA down for now anyways.

This topic is one that really needs to be discussed, because it is the first barrier to cross riskwise, when getting injected with a filler.

Ok inject me.Done.Wtf my Dick looks like shit.
Great that should be possible to improve somehow.
The chance of minimizing this lottery of aesthetic outcome.

I read a thread where Dr N. injected someone who was describing the postcare description of Dr N in a way, which i imagened as something like creating fire with your bare hands.

At least somewhat like it.
I didn't read thru the pe gym thread yet. Am i blind or where exactly is beeing talked about the rollertechnique itself?
So the Koreans have standardized a method already to even out everything at its best ?
Do you have any more information on this rollerthing smarty ?

Wade and Dr C conveyed to me that they can actually break up some of the bigger nodules using the Cannula as they are doing a session. They break up the pumps without injecting any PMMA. Of course they can also use Kenalog to dissolve the collagen build up...

In my next session, we plan on using this technique to smooth out the pumps that I have near the glans area. We will see if it works...

The most experienced doctors in Glans and shaft girth enhancement by using only filler injection and who published papers about that (>10 years ago) and also who invented the "Lipen-10" filler are :- Dr. Je Jong kim and Du Geon Moon .

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.17...010.01748.x/abstract

phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/quo...ion-5710648?trail=15 (( post 1))

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14671664

So they started with a temporary filler for shaft girth enhancement at the beginning then they shifted and invented a more permanenet filler "Lipen-10".

What I read about them they started to use these penile filler injection before 2003.

So i.e. they have a great experience in penile filler augmentation more than others and if they advised other doctors to use a roller to homogenize the injected temporary filler in its injected area to get the best esthetic result (I.e. I am sure before "this technique post-injection" they did not get a good esthetic results i.e irregularities or even lumps) so they must have modified their post-injection's instructions .

So imo if it is important to use it directly after a penile temporary filler (from their experience) ---> i.e. definitely it will be also more important to use it after a penile permanent filler.


I have sent an e-mail to Dr. Du Geon Moon asking him about this technique in comparison with massaging or wrapping ??

@Hoddle, As you said to use the lower conc. of PMMA (2%-6%) with a technique like (the micro-droplets of S1000) and try not to allow these small drops of PMMA (2%-6%) to be mixed together just in the small multiple depressed areas it could be a good idea but I would say it will be difficult the reason :-

The Carboxymethyle Cellulose of Metacrill for an example has near or even almost the same viscosity of water so it can easily move around in the tissues in the early period, instead the viscosity of Silikon1000 has 1000 times the viscosity of water so the micro drops of this pure product cannot move around easily.

jlmb wrote: I talked to Dr. C and Wade about the roller idea and they said they use that on the face because there is bone underneath. They said the roller helps with irregularities against the facial bone structure as it has a base, but you wouldn't do it with the penis.

@jlmb


Thanks for checking with Dr C and Wade about this. There is still progress to be made on the post op uniformity of PMMA and it would be good to explore options further?


Also, has anyone already asked them if they'd be disposed to experimenting with Silikon1000 for corrective purposes? Those of us who have significant voids between PMMA induced collagen growth might stand to benefit from this, and I for one would be willing to try just about anything plausible and providing hope to uniformize the final result with a smooth rather than a chunky surface...


Anyone here who is in touch with them and can bring this up, thanks for letting us know.


HC

Are you guys now shills for loria (kidding). Seriously this is a bad idea and should be filed in the insane human experiments folder. Yes silicone is softer, but combining two dangerous fillers in the same location could only increase the odds of a long term complication. I know you are probably speaking hypothetically, but this is how these disasters are born. And I have not doubt there is a doctor willing to try it out on paying client.

Wouldn't a bandage be more effective with Artefil, than Metacril or Linea Safe? Surely it's more risky to apply any sort of pressure to a filler that sets quickly. If the bandage is too tight in one place, but sets quickly it could cause a dent. You could apply the bandage too tightly in one area and by the time you get off your flight the PMMA could be hard to manipulate.

jlmb wrote: but you wouldn't do it with the penis.

And why is that ? What reason did they give.
What kind of roller model are we talking about by the way.
A roller that you use for painting your walls i guess.
What about a roller model that is applying little pressure, from all sites at the same time when used. A "circle roller" , in case the reason for not using the roller is that if you use it, it pushes the PMMA elsewhere, to the other side for example.

And what about a corset for the penis after the procedure.
The wrap is one in a way but maybe one that is more relieable and static, so that cases like "Mustgetbigger" ones, of having more PMMA on one side, then on the other, (i think it was after round 1or2 in his case) just can't happen at all, due to the forces of the corset or improved wrapthing.
(so that would be for overall outcome)


I assume that where the bumps behind the glans are, that that is just the position, where they stoped applying ? (and stoped clicking his gun and going on to the next apply step/move) And that's the reason then why it creates a bump, because there is then just a bit too much on one spot.
No idea how to avoid this then or treat otherwise but with a roller.

I talked to Dr. C and Wade about the roller idea and they said they use that on the face because there is bone underneath. They said the roller helps with irregularities against the facial bone structure as it has a base, but you wouldn't do it with the penis.

The problems is that the penis is such a dynamic organ and is changing in three dimensions almost all the time, keeping a small amount of S1000 or PMMA in such a small area is very very difficult. Unless an injection is given to cause a SEMI Erection state and then after the procedure the penis is wrapped for days to keep everything in place WITH this semi Erect state...

Dr C told me it is very difficult to inject PMMA in a FULLY Erect penis, the Erection causes the PMMA to go all over the place. He actually had to stop a few procedures due to erections.

Penises that do not retract too much are best suited for best esthetic results with PMMA.