--- title: "Big Fred - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "This is from the old forum showing 'Big Fred'. I don't believe he got his PMMA from Dr. C but from a doctor in Brazil. Just shows... - Page 4" url: "https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/5448623-big-fred.html?start=45" date: "2026-08-06T22:27:38+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Big Fred ## Re: Big Fred 14 years 11 months ago [\#1269831087](#1269831087) - **[gsxr7501941](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1715828-gsxr7501941.html "View gsxr7501941's Profile")** - [![gsxr7501941's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1715828-gsxr7501941.html "View gsxr7501941's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1715828-gsxr7501941.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 196 - Thanks: 7 - - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1715828) We should try to get him on the forum. Somebody from the other forum said that they ahd spoken with him via email if I remember right. 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Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS81NDQ4NjIzLWJpZy1mcmVkLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Big Fred 14 years 11 months ago [\#1269812930](#1269812930) - **[virgin\_age\_29](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1750804-virgin-age-29.html "View virgin_age_29's Profile")** - [![virgin_age_29's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1750804-virgin-age-29.html "View virgin_age_29's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1750804-virgin-age-29.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 29 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1750804) Think I'd prefer more of a graceful taper like Sizemic than that shape. Seems a bit much. 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In my case I have the same issue but less: the new collagen on the right side is a bit thicker than the left side. 2- Also in the pictures (erect penis) if you compare the before and after pmma pic.'s :- In the pre-pmma erect :- concave Lt. and convex Rt. In the post-pmma erect :- straight Lt. and more convex Rt. So pmma corrected the diseased side of the shaft only but it will unfortunately exaggerate the convex longer side in this case the Rt. side. 3- if you check also in the pic's 3,4,+ esp.6 :- [ diametropeniano.blogspot.com.es/2012/02/...l?zx=37ba922243b47d6](http://diametropeniano.blogspot.com.es/2012/02/fotos-atualizadas-2012-10212-duplo-clic.html?zx=37ba922243b47d6) . There is a depressed area on the back of the penis just behind the circ. scar; that means this area has less collagen gain (i.e. less pmma beads) from the beginning , this will not be so obvious on the naked eyes and you might not see it in the 1st 2 years but you can feel the depression between the firm thick collagen that is the reason why I have mentioned it before, from my experience you should delay the touch-ups and it will be much better after 2.5-3 yrs esp. if it were only minor aesthetic issues (but I know some of you wont wait for that period and will go earlier i.e. more touch-ups in the future). 4- In the last pic. (7) :- The base of his erect penis is narrower than the shaft (no pmma injected at the base). In summary :- Anyone who has peyronie's disease even if it is mild there is a high possibility of asymmetry aesthetic look in the long-term. So you should expect that before you go for pmma injection (due to the anatomical penile deep space asymmetry). In regard of Big Fred he went for a large amount of pmma in disproportional with his shorter penile erect length with a peyronie's disease ----> Asymmetry almost 100%. In his case in the early phase he had almost smooth symmetrical erect penis (but actually the penile skin covered the asymmetry of the new collagen underneath it i.e. the Rt. side has more beads >> the Lt.side) but in the long term i.e. the end result of the complete disappearing of the swelling ---> the asymmetry of the deep collagen will be more obvious. This is the same e.g. after Rhinoplasty some doctors used to say after 1 year you will have the final result but now they said the best and the final result is after 2 years (i.e. any fine irregularities will show of after 2 years of-course thin skin will show the irregularities earlier than the thicker one). So in his case the mild swelling camouflage the thinner collagen on his Lt. side in the early phase so it looked much better in regard of symmetry but after a period of time e.g. >2yrs the swelling (edema) on the Lt. side had disappeared showing the bulge on the Rt. side and the asymmetry. I hope I did explain it well (i.e. from my own experience). 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This is a great site and your doing an amazing job. I too have seen the issues of other sites and wouldnt want that to happen here. 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Too much PMMA IMHO. 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I go to lengths to ensure a mature, stable, and open forum but you will occasionally have members who aren't always going to be thrilled about the decisions I make. Given that this is a free forum for all, I think we should appreciate what we can get, especially in light of all the alternatives (think MyNewSize...). I ask that we resume the topic matter of this thread, thanks Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS81NDQ4NjIzLWJpZy1mcmVkLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Big Fred 14 years 11 months ago [\#1269831138](#1269831138) - **[briceb](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1725992-briceb.html "View briceb's Profile")** - [![briceb's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1725992.jpg?1571843684)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1725992-briceb.html "View briceb's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1725992-briceb.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1484 - Thanks: 17 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1725992) @gsxr I think that is a great idea. Would be good to hear his experience. 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I'm quite fond of her myself. 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(off topic I know lol) Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS81NDQ4NjIzLWJpZy1mcmVkLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Big Fred 14 years 11 months ago [\#1269836284](#1269836284) - **[seeker](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1738017-seeker.html "View seeker's Profile")** - [![seeker's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1738017-seeker.html "View seeker's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/1738017-seeker.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 10 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1738017) What do you feel is an appropriate taper from base to glans? Do you think being 7" at the base and 6" at the glans is too cone-like? Is 6.5" base and 6" behind glans is more aesthetic? Is 7" base and 6.5" glans a little overboard? Hmm...I guess these measurements should be considered on an average 6" Erect length penis. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtcGhhbGxvcGxhc3R5LWRpc2N1c3Npb24tYXJjaGl2ZS81NDQ4NjIzLWJpZy1mcmVkLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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