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TOPIC: PMMA injection for Glans enhancement can be done

Re: PMMA injection for Glans enhancement can be done

15 years 2 weeks ago #1281151448
You are dealing with PE and a Dr from another culture and a different language so I think you may not get an exact answer, but please keep trying. It will benefit all of us.

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Re: PMMA injection for Glans enhancement can be done

15 years 2 weeks ago #1278946523
I have read previous posts, where it was said PMMA doesn't have the same effects of inflammation that it has on the face, very biased opinions, but it has become clear that PMMA has the same effect on some people penises, as it does on some peoples face. I wonder what happens when someone gets an inflamed penis head (granuloma), because you can't de-gloved the head of the penis..... to remove the PMMA. PMMA does have excellent result with people with HIV only because their immune systems are weaker, so less likely to attack the PMMA. I advise caution to anyone who will get this penis head procedure in the future. I am still sitting on the fence, when it comes to PMMA, maybe one day.

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Re: PMMA injection for Glans enhancement can be done

15 years 2 weeks ago #1269539549
I have asked Lemperle's opinion about Dr. A.El-seweifi's Artecoll injection results :-

"You are correct ! He either used another product (Radiesse or Sculptra) or went too deep into the spongious tissue...
We all know that dermal fat grafts will be absorbed over time...otherwise, we ALL WOULD DO IT ! "-

I know some people wouldn't agree with Lemperle but I just want you to know all the information I get .
I have also sent an e-mail to Dr.Samy Passy in Rio. about the Korean paper and also about the doctor in Berlin , I just want to know his opinion too.
I would like to know what is Dr.C.'s opinion about these informations (in Korea and in Berlin) ---> no serious complication ???
Did he ever try it ? Did he inject e.g. a very small amount of Newplastic in a small area of the corona???


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Re: PMMA injection for Glans enhancement can be done

15 years 2 weeks ago #1278766560
Yes, if I recall it was not PMMA that was used in this technique. But I thought Dr C said the product did have a small amount of PMMA in it. And Lipen does sound familiar so I believe it must be Lipen-P. But he did say that is does go away over time. Sorry, I can't be certain, at the time it was all new to me.


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Re: PMMA injection for Glans enhancement can be done

15 years 2 weeks ago #1269487073
I have sent an e-mail to Lemperle about this doctor's technique in using Artecoll for the Glans and that was his reply :-
I know Dr. El-Seweifi well - but never met him in person, because I asked him some 10 years ago to publish his method of wrapping a non-absorbable net (mesh) around the penis in my book on Aestetische Chirurgie (aesthetic surgery). Concerning a glans augmentation, my feeling is to augment the corona only to make it fit to the shaft. This can be done by Artecoll, as it has been done with a temporary fillers before , but it must be applied very superficially - because the rest of the glans is a spongy tissues , where you may get intravascular and may inject it into the blood stream. However, Artecoll is not anymore on the market since the Chinese bought the factory EMCM in Nijmegen, Holland. Dr. El-Seweifi could buy the Artecoll directly from EMCM, as I know. Best, Gottfried

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Re: PMMA injection for Glans enhancement can be done

15 years 2 weeks ago #1269800677
@Allgood
Here is a link to the thread:
PRFM Resultshttp://PhalloBoards.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5415968
Cheers,
HC

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Re: PMMA injection for Glans enhancement can be done

15 years 2 weeks ago #1277640680
We started clinical trials of Glans enhancement using Lipen D to get approval from Korea FDA. It is go along under management of KFDA.
I think non-biodegradable PMMA materials is not suitable on glans enhancement even if there is previous successful experiences.
<Reasons>
Since the target area of injection is connected right with Corpus Spongiosum without anatomical septum , I suggest it will not necessarily be safe even though the particle size of PMMA 100 micon.*And cross linked Dextran could be long-lasted in the human body, it remains stable within the collagen tissue capsule at any cost, and if there is no tissue capsule, it biodegrades. I have many successful experiences about it.

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Re: PMMA injection for Glans enhancement can be done

15 years 2 weeks ago #1280517615
smalljay wrote: I know it seems like I'm the only one still all over this thread, but it just amazes me what continual persistence can uncover in today's modern world. For instance, just MONTHS ago, at the beginning quarter of this year, the general knowledge around here (and around most of the world) was that glans enhancement was virtually impossible - the only options were a small handful of marginal, risky or unsatisfactory 'solutions' (hyaluronic acid, skin graft transplant, etc etc). Now, we at least have Lipen D. It materialized to us magically, out of the ether, thanks to the research of one Smartman. For those of us with exceedingly small glans who've always heard there was no solution, this is a true Godsend (hell, even the manual PE forums shot down our hopes - with actual glans gains being considered very rare/improbable over at Thunder'sPlace).

I just wanted to take this time to re-post the website of the clinic 'Well Being' who performs this Lipen D glans enhancement: www.wbclinic.co.kr/index.php?mid=man_2

I'm posting it because I (somehow) just noticed it for the first time today. I've never, ever been to their site before, never knew it existed. Smartman posted that link on page 3 of these forums, yet even after reading every post in this thread two times over, I somehow still missed it. That just goes to show the value in re-reading threads and information here on these forums. There have been several 'Eureka' moments I've had when researching PMMA, glans enhancement, etc - moments that I did NOT have when reading through the information for the first time. I think that in order (for me at least) to be truly knowledgeable about these topics, I definitely MUST read the topics more than once. For me this is the same with progress reports, clinical studies, and threads like this. There are always VITAL, CRITICAL details that I catch the second time around but somehow miss the first time reading, perhaps because of the initial 'information shock' that a newbie can get when delving into a topic of the unknown.

I'm kind of babbling here, but I think it's a vital point. If you want to have ideal results you have to put in the damn work and read, and RE-read. At least, my stupid brain requires it - some of you may absorb information better than myself. Damn, this procedure has me excited. Could be a great excuse for me to travel to Korea and check out the women there. God damn I'll be so tall (actually I've heard that lots of Koreans are tall and that the short asian stereotype is usually more oriented with mainland Chinese. But who cares - a boy can still dream about being extra tall in Korea).

It's this inquisitive nature, this need to re-read and & re-analyze that nourishes our forum's contents, and I'm glad you see this. Furthermore, Smartman is one of the top 3 most resourceful members we have on this forum (alongside Hoddle & Miracle), so it comes as no surprise.

I had the same fervor, interest, & tenacity as you did smalljay when I first started this forum, and I'm glad this attitude persists in some of our newer-generation members.

Glans enhancement is still relatively risky, despite Dr. Cho's advancements. Whatever advancements may come of age, it requires a motivated group of members to do the necessary research & discovery so that new methods become just as viable as current ones, much the same way our Pioneers gave way to PMMA.

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Re: PMMA injection for Glans enhancement can be done

15 years 2 weeks ago #1279661810
So, they can't do the procedure until registered right? So we're looking at least a year out? I live right next to Korea, I wish there was more information available in english.

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Re: PMMA injection for Glans enhancement can be done

15 years 2 weeks ago #1279287539
Do we know what specific technique they're going to learn? Is it the R stuff/PMMA combo procedure? It just seemed like none of the available Korean techniques were that great, so I'm wondering if we should really be that excited.

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Re: PMMA injection for Glans enhancement can be done

15 years 2 weeks ago #1280070388
I had my glands done with DR. L in Miami. it lasted about two weeks along with everything else he did. No problems it just didn't last. I will be going to Dr. C in a few weeks I am going to try to talk him into doing my glands.

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Re: PMMA injection for Glans enhancement can be done

15 years 2 weeks ago #1279444980
My understanding is that they have gone and are almost certainly still in the Korean peninsula.

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Re: PMMA injection for Glans enhancement can be done

15 years 2 weeks ago #1278975221
Hi Michael,

From what I understand, it isn't exactly PMMA that might be used for the glans but another compound without PMMA developed in South Korea. This must be of course confirmed, but from what I gathered about Dr Cho's procedure in Seoul, it is a form of Lippen without PMMA which is used for the glans (Lippen "D" for Dextran).

Once Dr C has returned from his travels and taken in the know-how from his colleague, we may learn more. I am certain all this will be transparent and quite clear prior to anyone being offered this procedure at Dr C's clinic. It is a promising procedure, especially for those with small glans and prone to serious retraction inside a PMMA enhanced shaft. For others, it is merely an aesthetic consideration which may help sculpt them the ideal unit...

Hunk Chunk

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Re: PMMA injection for Glans enhancement can be done

15 years 2 weeks ago #1277634042
Hi Smartman,


This isn't quite the good news I and others here had hoped for! At least there is some progress in glans enhancement research and applications. Two things irk me about Lipen-D:


- cost: roughly $4000 to $5000 for 4 tiny shots in the glans during a brief outpatient procedure. This product is outrageously priced, even if the research, patenting and clinic time is included. One milliliter is a very small quantity. He also is quoting the amount of product meant to enhance a Korean, when it is rather well known that in the ethnic distribution of penis size, they are at the lower end of the spectrum. We can assume that we might need between 10 and 15 milliliters, which could make the cost skyrocket. That is a heavy budget for a small portion of our anatomy, especially as this isn't a one time only procedure?


- permanence: it only lasts 2 years? So this is just another resorbable filler which at least works without flowering or adverse reactions? That is a long way from a permanent solution such as PMMA. I hope that one day they shall find a way to permanently enhance this part of our anatomy. There must be some material which can be used similarly without serious health or aesthetic risks. BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD...


I had understood that they had come up with a breakthrough, but the PMMA breakthrough for shaft girth enhancement may have led to excessive expectations among us. Actually, clinical dextran isn't as expensive as one might think. Non clinical is rather cheap when compared to the prices charged, plus the clinical cannot correspond really to what is billed when you consider that it is supplied in quantities from 100 grams per unit and as high as 50 kilograms of powder in a single package (as large as a cement bag). Let's hope such high pricing at the only clinic in the world offering this procedure doesn't lead the daredevils among us to inject themselves !


www.dextran.net/dextrans-clinical-dextran.html


Dextran is a branched glucan composed of linear ?(1?6) linked glucose units and ? (1?3) link initiated branches. Dextran ranges in size from 10,000 to 150,000 Kd. Dextrans are used in many applications as volume extenders, stabilizers, matrix components, binding platforms, lubricants and physical structure components.

SOURCE: Sigma Aldrich Dextran from Leuconostoc


I really hope they also propose Lipen-P which makes the procedure and travel around the planet cost-effective if not done every 2 years... Keep us posted when you hear back, and many thanks for saving us all the footwork to find this out for ourselves!


HC

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Re: PMMA injection for Glans enhancement can be done

15 years 2 weeks ago #1277768444
Quite well observed Mustang. However, at least there will be a matching shaft and glans size. What won't look natural is the narrow section between them. Maybe it can be stretched to look more natural without surgical intervention to widen the Circumcision ring? Until they decode the Penis Gene in our DNA and tweak it with a pill to become whatever shape and size we desire, we are stuck trying to get multiple techniques to more or less converge. Aesthetics are hard to reach when you have technical limits and dimensional targets.

Regarding glans enhancement, I am sure we would all be happy to learn more about this procedure especially if it can be offered in South Korea. I for one am ready to book a flight in September and volunteer as a PhalloBoards front runner. With serious disproportion between shaft and glans plus a Turtling issue when retracting, I am a prime candidate for this procedure. If anyone has contact info, please send me a PM so that I may make arrangements.

HC

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