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#  TOPIC: Heard of PMMA (Medical Grade) OR Dr Casavantes? \[PART 2\]

##  Re: Heard of PMMA (Medical Grade) OR Dr Casavantes? \[PART 2\]

   15 years 1 month ago [\#1269235941](#1269235941)

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 @Dd71
Thanks for your concern. I'm actually scrambling for a solution, and trying what I can when I can depending on product availability, geographical location and finances. One thing which brought me to change my move to board a plane to San Diego was the rather extravagant claims of sensible penile growth using a cocktail of Erection dysfunction injectibles, which I cannot confirm are accurate given they were sourced in a Toronto hair implant doctor's patent application. In any case I'll probably be trying a Quad mixture of penile injectibles on a daily basis to gain one to three hour erections during which I might do mid-level pumping under heat to then switch to low level pumping with a thermal shock of an ice pack to make the elastic gains to become lastingly plastic. If this procedure does work, especially associated with DHT and DMSO topical applications and bi-weekly injections of Gonadotropin, then I would possibly want to avoid PMMA prior to getting such gains? I might not succeed, one person testified to several years of TriMix injections with only half an Inch gain.
The reason I am now considering the Free Fat Transfer FFT procedure is because it would resorb over time, meaning that it could work as a stop gap measure to be less deficient with a lady used to basket ball players, while not causing any collagen resistance to ongoing or future PE gains by chemical or mechanical means. I understand that FFT is softer if not almost mushy, in comparison to PMMA, so I'd probably want to get PMMA later. One other procedure I am contemplating is Dr Runels' magic platelet plasma injection which takes your own blood and reinjects it after a chemically enhanced centrifuge procedure. No word yet on his experimental results...
I still may change my mind and hop over to see Dr C, it may depend on the price arrangements that can be made with the French doctor although it isn't in their habit of making concessions, charging by the Centimeter more than across the Atlantic by the Inch...
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##  Re: Heard of PMMA (Medical Grade) OR Dr Casavantes? \[PART 2\]

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 SO,
How about asking Wade or Dr.C. about our discussion that there are many guys in the forum would like to have Newplastic injection but they are worried about the possibility of migration of microspheres and there are some reports saying that Newplastic contains small or irregular beads , and they would like to have a small ampule of Newplastic (he might give us the ampule for free if he is interested to have more patients and he is convinced that Newplastic is almost pure) to be checked by (a non bias) US pathologist (SEM images) if his answer is NO, I will be very worried. What do you think ?

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##  Re: Heard of PMMA (Medical Grade) OR Dr Casavantes? \[PART 2\]

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> supa wrote: Guys, I cant see my attachments in my past two posts anymore (the EM pictures). Have they been removed?

 I can still see them. Be sure you are logged in, because that is the only way to see uploaded photos.
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##  Re: Heard of PMMA (Medical Grade) OR Dr Casavantes? \[PART 2\]

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 @mikehok - I don't know, one would have to dig through a lot of financial statements and litigation to answer that question. He is still connected to Artecol which is basically the non-US version of Artefill. Why are you asking?

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##  Re: Heard of PMMA (Medical Grade) OR Dr Casavantes? \[PART 2\]

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 Isn't the big difference here that the PMMA binds with natural collagen to basically integrate with your own tissue in a way that injected silicone does not, which prevents migration?

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##  Re: Heard of PMMA (Medical Grade) OR Dr Casavantes? \[PART 2\]

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Electronic microscopic images of Artefill attached below (S. Cohen, Aesthetic Surgery Journal 2010 30:438).

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##  Re: Heard of PMMA (Medical Grade) OR Dr Casavantes? \[PART 2\]

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 I am also considering an adjunct to the DHT gel combined with DMSO: it is the gel form of TriMax which itself is an injectible combination of:
AlprostadilprostaglandinPapaverinevasodilatorPhentolaminealpha blocker
In gel form TriMax-Gel could be applied at the same time as Andractim DHT cream along with DMOS and this mixture would be especially capable of penetrating the shaft and glans throughout all of their structures. This might have an added benefit of placing the ingredients in the central soft tissue structure leading up to the glans, (which presumably wouldn't be reached by a shaft base injection into one of the two lateral veinous structures) ensuring a more coherent hormonal response throughout all bodies of this organ. This topical application of TriMax-Gel (with or without DHT) could presumably be done instead of or in addition to a Erectile Disfunction daily injection of TriMax injectible or another ED injection at the base... FWIW
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##  Re: Heard of PMMA (Medical Grade) OR Dr Casavantes? \[PART 2\]

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> cantwaitforpma wrote: Hello all. Just wanted to introduce myself. Because i'm paranoid about posting my name i hope yall don't mind just knowing me as M. Thank you all who have taken the plunge and gotten the PMMA procedure done. I've been reading or "lurking" at the old forum and can't wait till i can contribute and add to the wealth of information and experience knowledge yall have made available. I'm ready to shed my lack of self confidence(all psychological) and start being a more confident person for both me and my wife. Thank you so much for again for your contributions.

 Welcome to the forum! Judging from your username, do you have an appointment schedule or plan to schedule one? Or are you still in the research phase?

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##  Re: Heard of PMMA (Medical Grade) OR Dr Casavantes? \[PART 2\]

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 Indeed, all available literature I have come across, except for the two 2010 Aesthetic Surgery Journal papers which we have discussed in the last pages of this thread in the old forum, seem to rule out the possibility of migration.

But, here, d71 just asked the question: what happens if PMMA's beads migrate.

Does it happen?

Let us be clear that what has surprised us is that the sheer possibility of migration of PMMA particles in Newplastic has been raised in the two quoted papers. Is it true? Only a couple of articles make this claim; I felt initially a bit uneasy however since the journal looks authoritative, the articles are recent and they bring clinical evidence.

On the other hand, as correctly repeated here, PMMA long history has got a completely different track record from SILICONE.

For what is worth, my gut feeling is that migration concerns for Newplastic are overdone, even if it clearly is inferior in quality to Artefill. Dr Casavantes has got an international reputation in his field which he has gained over many years: he must trust this product and that we need to keep in mind when we think of risk scenarios.

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##  Re: Heard of PMMA (Medical Grade) OR Dr Casavantes? \[PART 2\]

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##  Re: Heard of PMMA (Medical Grade) OR Dr Casavantes? \[PART 2\]

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 Hi Guys,
I'm calling forth your advice regarding the compatibility of PMMA injections with ulterior NATURAL growth enhancement. I am starting to undertake intensive hormonal treatments associated with directly injected vascular enhancers. This means that once I get my first session of PMMA and its associated collagen buildup my penis might still grow a good bit if the testimony seen below is valid.
[ phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/sho...9224459&amp;postcount=11](http://phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/show_single_post?pid=1269224459&postcount=11)
I am starting to take Chorionic Gonodotropin (better known as Pregnyl) at 3000 IU per week injected under the pelvic skin. I plan to also take a strong Erectile Dysfunction injection daily directly into the penis - ouch! Add to that DHT with enhanced penetration using DMSO as a carrier and there is a small chance of actually experiencing noteworthy penis growth by chemical means. Wouldn't the collagen strands generated by PMMA, with their harder buidup, tend to resist growth pressure not so much longitudinally but mostly of girth? The last thing I want is for PMMA induced collagen layers to PREVENT harmonious penis englargement and reduce my girth potential ? ! ?
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##  Re: Heard of PMMA (Medical Grade) OR Dr Casavantes? \[PART 2\]

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 Dd71 I have tried a temporary filler, It was macrolane which is basically a form of Hyaluronic Acid. The result was not good, I don't think you would like it.

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##  Re: Heard of PMMA (Medical Grade) OR Dr Casavantes? \[PART 2\]

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 Also I will ask Dr C in ten days or so whether PMMA presents a risk with intracavernous injections such as those done for erectile dysfunction. This is a treatment I am seeking to pursue, not to get rock hard but for the potential expansion using QuadMix and a few potentiators. I won't be doing it if this might move PMMA into the bloodstream. Also, I wonder if topical application of DMSO applied onto a PMMA enhanced shaft might not loosen some molecules of New Plastic and wash them into the bloodstream?
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##  Re: Heard of PMMA (Medical Grade) OR Dr Casavantes? \[PART 2\]

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 Dd71, I agree with your plan to have the 10% concentration. It's what I would do too.

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##  Re: Heard of PMMA (Medical Grade) OR Dr Casavantes? \[PART 2\]

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 @sparticus,
You wrote to me bfore:-
(( @smartman I believe directly contacting Dr. Cohen about his opinion would be very beneficial for the forum )) .
As I told you before I will try my best to get more information from Dr.Cohen and he will be one of my sources and not only Lemperle .

So these are the e-mails to Dr.Cohen and his replies :-

1} I am interested in PMMA injection , I was planning to go either to Mexico or Brazil for either (Metacrill or Newplastic) , I know that the Artefill is more superior than the other two , but it is more expensive.As I read the only complication could happen is the chance of developing foreign body granuloma which can be treated by local injection ??
A) Artefill is much safer. For the extra money it is with it. Of course you are the decision maker. If I showed you what these other products under a microscope looked like you would understand.
2} Do we need an antibiotic for Artefill injection in the prevention of short or long-term infection??
A) No it is not necessary . If you are interested please contact our office and schedule an appointment for a consultation.

3} Then I have sent him another two e-mails in regards :-1) If we dont need an antibiotic for PMMA injection , so thats mean the risk of serious infection for this filler is Zero , correct??
Is it true there are millions of macrophages around the beads which will attack any micro-organisms coming close to the beads ??
2) I heard there could be a possibility of migration of the small beads present in the Metacrill or Newplastic to a distant organ if that is true, is there any medical article which will show this complication did happen in human ?? e.g. liver or lung disease or failure ??
Or any medical articles stating that there is a chance of distant migration in human after the injection of the worst PMMA Arteplast or Newplastic?? Liver or lung failure or other serious diseases beside the higher rate of foreign body granuloma formation which is 2.5% .
That was his reply to me :-
A) Please contact the company or come in for a consult. I unfortunately will not be able to spend any more of my time on your emails.

LOL, I dont know why he refused to answer my last Q., the answer of my Q. is so simple YES or NO , could it be he has something e.g. a report about Newplastic (i.e. a proof in regard of migration of the small beads which can cause serious illnesses or did it cause a distant organ failure) and he doesnt want to tell ?? I doubt it .
If somebody has any other names (i.e. other expert doctors in PMMA beside Lemperle and Cohenl) whom we can ask and they could give us more information about our Q., I would appreciate it .
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