--- title: "Loose/ Soft Skin after filler - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Am I the only one with this issue of having a glove-like, loose gooey mess of skin over my shaft that moves independently from my shaft even when erect? I..." url: "https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/general-discussion/10155147-loose-soft-skin-after-filler.html" date: "2026-08-07T10:32:41+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Loose/ Soft Skin after filler ## Loose/ Soft Skin after filler 3 years 5 months ago [\#1308711154](#1308711154) - **[EZPZ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5890695-ezpz.html "View EZPZ's Profile")** - [![EZPZ's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5890695-ezpz.html "View EZPZ's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5890695-ezpz.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 7 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5890695) Am I the only one with this issue of having a glove-like, loose gooey mess of skin over my shaft that moves independently from my shaft even when Erect? I originally started with HA about a year and a half ago, got a total of maybe 15 syringes over a few procedures. I wasn't really a fan. Had the whole Michelin man look going, migrating filler and it was just soft. After reading people on here saying that Bellafil was more firm and natural feeling, I went ahead and saw Rupeka back in November, got 10 syringes. I'm still not impressed. It just basically feels like I have much thicker, gooey skin. Even when Erect I feel like I have a hard hot dog inside of a big gooey corn dog. During penetration, the filler gets pushed back to the base. When I receive oral I can see the filler being moved back and it looks and feels awkward, to where I feel dumb and even lose interest. If the skin could somehow stay intact with the shaft then it could possibly be ok, but honestly this has been extremely disappointing. I am Circumcised btw. Started a bit over 5" Girth Erect. Sitting about 6" now, if an extra Inch of goo counts. The following user(s) said Thank You: [tissuelamp](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6777480-tissuelamp.html "View tissuelamp's Profile") Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi8xMDE1NTE0Ny1sb29zZS1zb2Z0LXNraW4tYWZ0ZXItZmlsbGVyLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Loose/ Soft Skin after filler 3 years 5 months ago [\#1308711169](#1308711169) - **[Rybrad](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6767759-rybrad.html "View Rybrad's Profile")** - [![Rybrad's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6767759-rybrad.html "View Rybrad's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6767759-rybrad.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 29 - Thanks: 9 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6767759) Do you have pictures you could share? Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi8xMDE1NTE0Ny1sb29zZS1zb2Z0LXNraW4tYWZ0ZXItZmlsbGVyLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Loose/ Soft Skin after filler 3 years 5 months ago [\#1308711172](#1308711172) - **[EZPZ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5890695-ezpz.html "View EZPZ's Profile")** - [![EZPZ's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5890695-ezpz.html "View EZPZ's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5890695-ezpz.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 7 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5890695) A few Flaccid and semi Erect#### Attachment not found #### Attachment not found #### Attachment not found #### Attachment not found #### Attachment not found #### Attachment not found Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi8xMDE1NTE0Ny1sb29zZS1zb2Z0LXNraW4tYWZ0ZXItZmlsbGVyLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Loose/ Soft Skin after filler 3 years 5 months ago [\#1308711173](#1308711173) - **[EZPZ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5890695-ezpz.html "View EZPZ's Profile")** - [![EZPZ's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5890695-ezpz.html "View EZPZ's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5890695-ezpz.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 7 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5890695) Can we do videos? Last edit: by [EZPZ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5890695-ezpz.html "View EZPZ's Profile") Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi8xMDE1NTE0Ny1sb29zZS1zb2Z0LXNraW4tYWZ0ZXItZmlsbGVyLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Loose/ Soft Skin after filler 3 years 5 months ago [\#1308711187](#1308711187) - **[Rybrad](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6767759-rybrad.html "View Rybrad's Profile")** - [![Rybrad's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6767759-rybrad.html "View Rybrad's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6767759-rybrad.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 29 - Thanks: 9 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6767759) Honestly man, the pics don't look that bad at all. In fact, you look hung. I'm jealous to be honest. Especially Erect, you look very well endowed. Maybe it's hard to tell your problem from photos? Have any partners noticed or said anything to you a out the filler moving around when giving blowjobs/handjobs? 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However, you did say you had it back in November so it should have been enough time. I noticed that the last time with my first round that once the Bellafill collagen was gone I had these weird high and low spots and nodules. With time it got much better. I just had my second round two weeks ago exactly and I'm starting to notice the nodules and goooey spots like you mention starting to pop up again but if it's anything like the last time then I'm not worried I know it will get better. That's one of the reason too that aftercare is so important. Things look good for the first few days and you feel like you don't have to massage and even out but then after a few days the imperfections start to show up. Give it a little more time and see what happens. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi8xMDE1NTE0Ny1sb29zZS1zb2Z0LXNraW4tYWZ0ZXItZmlsbGVyLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Loose/ Soft Skin after filler 3 years 5 months ago [\#1308711202](#1308711202) - **[EZPZ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5890695-ezpz.html "View EZPZ's Profile")** - [![EZPZ's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5890695-ezpz.html "View EZPZ's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5890695-ezpz.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 7 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5890695) No, I haven't had anyone say anything. But I notice it, and it bugs me because I know it looks and feels unnatural. Maybe I'm just in my head a bit with it. But I get to thinking that surely they notice it, they're just not saying it, and then I get in my head and start stressing about it. When my EQ is good it's not as bad, but the more I stress the worse my EQ is. Vicious cycle kind of thing. Even with good EQ, I need a decent amount of lube, otherwise I feel like I have issues with filler getting pushed towards the base during penetration. The HA was not good for me. It was too soft from the get go and it migrated on me continuously to certain spots. I had to have it melted where it would tend to bunch up, and then would try to have it filled in the spots where it never seemed to want to stay. The Bellafil at least seemed to settle and not move after the first few days, and I was super careful with the after care. I did wind up with a Nodule where some of the product leaked down to the underside, though. Maybe my expectations were a bit high as far as the firmness, and I still have a good amount of HA. I'll try to be patient and give it time. I will say that you really need to be mentally tough for this sometimes. Some of the people on here seem to have such great outcomes right away, looking and feeling natural. When it's not a great outcome, it can be challenging. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi8xMDE1NTE0Ny1sb29zZS1zb2Z0LXNraW4tYWZ0ZXItZmlsbGVyLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Loose/ Soft Skin after filler 3 years 4 months ago [\#1308711209](#1308711209) - **[Rybrad](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6767759-rybrad.html "View Rybrad's Profile")** - [![Rybrad's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6767759-rybrad.html "View Rybrad's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6767759-rybrad.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 29 - Thanks: 9 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6767759) The doc gave you bellafil without dissolving all the HA? That sounds ludicrous on his part.its probably the HA that is squishy that you're noticing. 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That sounds ludicrous on his part.its probably the HA that is squishy that you're noticing. This is what I was thinking as well. Why not dissolve the HA first? Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi8xMDE1NTE0Ny1sb29zZS1zb2Z0LXNraW4tYWZ0ZXItZmlsbGVyLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Loose/ Soft Skin after filler 3 years 4 months ago [\#1308711214](#1308711214) - **[EZPZ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5890695-ezpz.html "View EZPZ's Profile")** - [![EZPZ's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5890695-ezpz.html "View EZPZ's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5890695-ezpz.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 7 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=5890695) I don't know, I've read other people mixing fillers without issues. After multiple sessions of trying to get the HA somewhat even I didn't want to start all over with dissolving everything and dealing with weeks/ months of more needle holes and waiting for it to heal, etc. It's not an exact science and it's not assured that it will all go away, much less dissolve evenly. Chances are I could have just started making things all uneven again, at least from my understanding. The Dr. felt he could still apply the Bellafil evenly and as the HA went away over time, I could have the Bellafil touched up. And I think he did a decent job of doing it evenly. I had expected a firmer feel, though, but it just felt like more of the same. Last edit: by [EZPZ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/5890695-ezpz.html "View EZPZ's Profile") Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi8xMDE1NTE0Ny1sb29zZS1zb2Z0LXNraW4tYWZ0ZXItZmlsbGVyLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Loose/ Soft Skin after filler 3 years 4 months ago [\#1308711226](#1308711226) - **[EricPig](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6766882-ericpig.html "View EricPig's Profile")** - [![EricPig's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6766882-ericpig.html "View EricPig's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6766882-ericpig.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 158 - Thanks: 18 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6766882) [ @EZPZ](https://phalloboards.info/forum/user/5890695-ezpz.html) Hey man first off, I’m sorry you’re not on a high and absolutely loving your thickness. I agree with the guys … I think it looks great. Super thick and heavy looking. I’m thinking the HA will eventually dissolve. It’s life isn’t permanent to begin with. What’s y’all’s thoughts on that? 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In other words, you can only predict the extent the new collagen will work with the mobility of your skin. I personally believe that short of having a major Nodule, ridge, or lump, most partners aren't going to notice **unless you invite scrutiny.** I've gained nearly 3 whole inches in Girth, so I absolutely have variations & nuances that a suspecting/discerning eye may notice. Otherwise, I've never had a woman comment on it other than acknowledging its thickness. We're our own harshest critics, if we carry it like we're packin it, the vast majority of partners wouldn't be the wiser. Besides, if you have the time and funds, a lot of these minor imperfections can be corrected over months & years at a fraction of the cost (because you'll be requiring much less mL's). Took me a few years to achieve both size and aesthetics, but then again I started on the thin side. For some of you blessed to start with a good unit, even less time & resources. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi8xMDE1NTE0Ny1sb29zZS1zb2Z0LXNraW4tYWZ0ZXItZmlsbGVyLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Loose/ Soft Skin after filler 1 year 1 month ago [\#1308721798](#1308721798) - **[tissuelamp](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6777480-tissuelamp.html "View tissuelamp's Profile")** - [![tissuelamp's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6777480-tissuelamp.html "View tissuelamp's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/general-forum/user/6777480-tissuelamp.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 1 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6777480) Hey EZPZ, I was wondering if you had any updates on this. I felt the same after getting HA some years ago - it's like there's an extra outer layer that moves independently of the core penis. You described it perfectly. I was thinking of doing Bellafill to avoid this specific thing, but then I found your post. How has the Bellafill felt over time? (Another thought just occurred to me. I wonder if this is only annoying to guys with a tighter Circumcision. I think maybe for uncut / loosely-cut guys, it's just normal that there's extra skin that slides around on the outside even while Erect.) 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I started my PMMA journey with a loose Circumcision. Then I got the same shit problem like you. After I did a Circumcision Revision to a very tight cut - my situation improved a lot. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9nZW5lcmFsLWZvcnVtL2dlbmVyYWwtZGlzY3Vzc2lvbi8xMDE1NTE0Ny1sb29zZS1zb2Z0LXNraW4tYWZ0ZXItZmlsbGVyLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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