--- title: "Skiman's Surgimend Journey - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Hi all, I have my Surgimend procedure scheduled for 12/12 with Dr. Victor Liu. As I think I might be the first one here to undergo... - Page 5" url: "https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/progress-reports-the-patient-support-group/10154970-skimans-surgimend-journey.html?start=60" date: "2026-08-06T19:48:12+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Skiman's Surgimend Journey ## Re: Skiman's Surgimend Journey 3 years 5 months ago [\#1308710789](#1308710789) - **[skiman](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6764085-skiman.html "View skiman's Profile")** - [![skiman's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6764085-skiman.html "View skiman's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6764085-skiman.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 86 - Thanks: 18 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6764085) Dr. Liu is located in Burlingame. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLXRoZS1wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAvMTAxNTQ5NzAtc2tpbWFucy1zdXJnaW1lbmQtam91cm5leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9NjA=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Skiman's Surgimend Journey 3 years 5 months ago [\#1308710827](#1308710827) - **[tacotannerman](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6762771-tacotannerman.html "View tacotannerman's Profile")** - [![tacotannerman's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6762771-tacotannerman.html "View tacotannerman's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6762771-tacotannerman.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 5 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6762771) Hey Skiman! Would it be possible to see some update pictures on the current progress? It's been about a month since you last shared. I'm looking to potentially get the same procedure done by Dr. Liu so I'm curious to see how things are coming along. Last edit: by [tacotannerman](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6762771-tacotannerman.html "View tacotannerman's Profile") The following user(s) said Thank You: [Vinny81](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6766852-vinny81.html "View Vinny81's Profile") Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLXRoZS1wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAvMTAxNTQ5NzAtc2tpbWFucy1zdXJnaW1lbmQtam91cm5leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9NjA=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Skiman's Surgimend Journey 3 years 5 months ago [\#1308710869](#1308710869) - **[Lnpleaeu](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6767452-lnpleaeu.html "View Lnpleaeu's Profile")** - [![Lnpleaeu's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6767452-lnpleaeu.html "View Lnpleaeu's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6767452-lnpleaeu.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 10 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6767452) I am scheduled for both procedures next Friday at 9:30 am. It is going to be a 5H long according to the instructions the office sent me [ @Skiman](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/profile/6764085-skiman.html) : anything I should watch out for before the surgery and for days after? I am nervous. How long did you actually have to stay after the procedure? I'm planing to stay 4 nights after the procedures then flying home to recover for 2 weeks before I go back to work. Thanks for any information, Skiman! Last edit: by [Lnpleaeu](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6767452-lnpleaeu.html "View Lnpleaeu's Profile") Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLXRoZS1wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAvMTAxNTQ5NzAtc2tpbWFucy1zdXJnaW1lbmQtam91cm5leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9NjA=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Skiman's Surgimend Journey 3 years 5 months ago [\#1308710882](#1308710882) - **[skiman](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6764085-skiman.html "View skiman's Profile")** - [![skiman's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6764085-skiman.html "View skiman's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6764085-skiman.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 86 - Thanks: 18 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6764085) Hey [ @Tacotannerman](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/profile/6762771-tacotannerman.html) I’ll try to post some pictures this week. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLXRoZS1wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAvMTAxNTQ5NzAtc2tpbWFucy1zdXJnaW1lbmQtam91cm5leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9NjA=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Skiman's Surgimend Journey 3 years 5 months ago [\#1308710883](#1308710883) - **[skiman](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6764085-skiman.html "View skiman's Profile")** - [![skiman's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6764085-skiman.html "View skiman's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6764085-skiman.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 86 - Thanks: 18 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6764085) [ @Lnpleaeu](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/profile/6767452-lnpleaeu.html) , nothing really to watch out for prior to the surgery. I’m not surprised they are saying 5 hours total time. I think I was there 4 hours total. I didn’t really stay too long after the surgery. As far as what to watch for after, just make sure you take your meds and follow the instructions they gave you. I think it is smart to stay for a few days after so that you can have your follow up check up in person. As far as work, I work from home, so was actually back at it mid afternoon same day, I was fully awake during the procedure, so actually kept up with emails during the surgery. I was nervous too!! 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I was thinking that he would put me under sleep. So my surgery will be on Friday. I was thinking he would see me back on either Monday or Tuesday, so I can go ahead and fly back Tuesday evening. Let's see if it works out for me. Thanks for the information and advices, Skiman! 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I kept my phone with me to keep from getting bored and did emails and played games while the surgery was going on. 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You mentioned "both procedures". Are you getting your ligs cut? 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Not that all Asian men are short but I feel like I needed more. I will update you all about my journey and pictures as Dr. Liu 's instruction said I need to take daily pictures with comments and send to him. I am super nervous but I guess if I want to get it done then just get it done rather than wait and regret later. I'm turning 39 next month. 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Seems like most docs are vague about getting Erect gains instead mentioning Flaccid gains. 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If there are more hiding inside, he can bring it out to be used. But if there is less to none, he cannot magically bring anything out at all. So basically, it is depend on how much you have inside to begin with which does make sense to me Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLXRoZS1wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAvMTAxNTQ5NzAtc2tpbWFucy1zdXJnaW1lbmQtam91cm5leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9NjA=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Skiman's Surgimend Journey 3 years 5 months ago [\#1308710898](#1308710898) - **[ou812](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6764787-ou812.html "View ou812's Profile")** - [![ou812's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6764787-ou812.html "View ou812's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6764787-ou812.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 102 - Thanks: 11 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6764787) You think they could do a CAT scan or MRI to visualize the internal structures prior to a possible irreversible surgery. Just thinking out loud Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLXRoZS1wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAvMTAxNTQ5NzAtc2tpbWFucy1zdXJnaW1lbmQtam91cm5leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9NjA=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Skiman's Surgimend Journey 3 years 5 months ago [\#1308710899](#1308710899) - **[Lnpleaeu](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6767452-lnpleaeu.html "View Lnpleaeu's Profile")** - [![Lnpleaeu's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6767452-lnpleaeu.html "View Lnpleaeu's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6767452-lnpleaeu.html) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Posts: 10 - Thanks: 2 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=6767452) It makes sense, doesn't it. To do a scan prior to the procedure, but in reality, the human body is far way too complicated and sometimes the scan doesn't truly reveal everything. I am still bitter. I lost my late spouse to cancer. Prior to the surgeries, they did scans and all that stuffs and said they could safely remove the tumor. It turned out the tumor was wrapping over a major artery and they couldn't do it. I lost lots of faith after that day. 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It went very smooth. Dr. Liu was amazing at what he does. He also did the liposuction and inject some of the fat in to make it more symmetrical I guess. So far, I do not have any pain or any feeling there yet. He will see me again tomorrow. I was scared and of course it shrinks when I am scared. I didn't remember what was the measurement before and after, but they did take lots of pictures before and after the procedures. I will post pictures tomorrow The following user(s) said Thank You: [ou812](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/6764787-ou812.html "View ou812's Profile") Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnRzLXRoZS1wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAvMTAxNTQ5NzAtc2tpbWFucy1zdXJnaW1lbmQtam91cm5leS5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTEmc3RhcnQ9NjA=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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