--- title: "Chester's Length Progress Report - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Prior to my lig cut when I was 21 (I'm 42), I probably used to hang around 3" FL (I'm 4" FL). Shit bothered me to no end. The only... - Page 5" url: "https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/patient-support-group-progress-reports/8449642-chesters-length-progress-report.html?start=60" date: "2026-08-07T09:16:43+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Chester's Length Progress Report ## Re: Chester's Length Progress Report 8 years 8 months ago [\#1302017755](#1302017755) - - !['s Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4770081) > chester wrote: Ok, time for an update with pics. Admittedly, I haven't hung for about a month, but I was going pretty steady up until last month. I plan on starting up again in January, after the holidays, as I'll be traveling. > > Here are stats, and a pic. > > Starting' > EL: 6.25"' > FL: 4"' > EG: 5.5"' > > Today' > EL: 6.5" > FL: 4.35' > EG: 5.5" > > So I've gained a quarter Inch in EL since when I started, which is great. Everything else pretty much stayed the same from my last measurement, so I didn't bother with those pics. What I've learned is that Hanging definitely works, but it's really, really slow going. A quarter Inch in 7-8 months, this isn't for everyone. You really have to be consistent with this. I honestly don't think I will wait to get to 7" before I try out Ellanse. I'm thinking 6.75" is long enough. I have to say though, my EQ, which has always been very good, has been outstanding since I started Hanging. I think the reason for your slow gains is probably because you have already gained a significant amount considering you started at 5'. What do you think? 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I don't even think of that as slow gains, it's kind of what it takes which is why most guys don't see any because they think nothing is happening. I eventually stopped out of boredom and being satisfied with how much I had gained. At some point, I realized that the last .25" was not going to change the quality of my life. But like you said, Hanging does work, it just takes a lot of hours. Maybe some guys who are really interested will get inspired. The time is going to go by anyway, good for using it. FYI I saw the Fellini post, I see you more as Leon Phelps, the ladies man. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAtcHJvZ3Jlc3MtcmVwb3J0cy84NDQ5NjQyLWNoZXN0ZXJzLWxlbmd0aC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnQuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTYw) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Chester's Length Progress Report 8 years 8 months ago [\#1302018568](#1302018568) - **[chester](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4437325-chester.html "View chester's Profile")** - [![chester's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4437325-chester.html "View chester's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/4437325-chester.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 808 - Thanks: 11 - - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4437325) > Koosh wrote: I think the reason for your slow gains is probably because you have already gained a significant amount considering you started at 5'. What do you think? I'm certainly no expert on the science of penile anatomy, but your point certainly cannot be discounted. I do think though that, like HD points out, Hanging for growth definitely takes a long time, and my gains are likely perfectly consistent with the amount of time invested. 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I think I'm definitely getting to the point you reached, with respect to boredom. It's a considerable time investment in my day but I think I can pull it off for another 3 to 6 months, to attempt to get tha extra .25". Another reason I neglected to mention regarding the duration of growth is that I hang rather conservatively, never over 5 lb. I prefer duration to heavyweights, which has resulted in no injuries and much better EQ. But it does take longer. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAtcHJvZ3Jlc3MtcmVwb3J0cy84NDQ5NjQyLWNoZXN0ZXJzLWxlbmd0aC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnQuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTYw) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Chester's Length Progress Report 8 years 8 months ago [\#1302020042](#1302020042) - - !['s Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4770081) > chester wrote: I'm certainly no expert on the science of penile anatomy, but your point certainly cannot be discounted. I do think though that, like HD points out, Hanging for growth definitely takes a long time, and my gains are likely perfectly consistent with the amount of time invested. I didn't mean it in a bad way. Let's say a complete newbie invested the same amount of time as you into Hanging, he would probably have gained more, right? For you to even go from 5' to 6'5' is impressive in itself. 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Let's say a complete newbie invested the same amount of time as you into Hanging, he would probably have gained more, right? For you to even go from 5' to 6'5' is impressive in itself. I didn't think you meant it in a bad way at all. Keep in mind that I went from 5" to 5.75" through a lig cut + Hanging. It was a 1-month ordeal, so my previous experience with Hanging was over 20 years ago, and it was very brief and tied strictly to the lig cut. But yes, I do agree that a younger and newer person to PE would likely have more gains from the hang time that I've invested, due to the fact that they would likely produce more collagen and cellular growth than a 43 year old. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9wYXRpZW50LXN1cHBvcnQtZ3JvdXAtcHJvZ3Jlc3MtcmVwb3J0cy84NDQ5NjQyLWNoZXN0ZXJzLWxlbmd0aC1wcm9ncmVzcy1yZXBvcnQuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTYw) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Chester's Length Progress Report 8 years 8 months ago [\#1302021032](#1302021032) - - !['s Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=4770081) > chester wrote: I didn't think you meant it in a bad way at all. Keep in mind that I went from 5" to 5.75" through a lig cut + Hanging. It was a 1-month ordeal, so my previous experience with Hanging was over 20 years ago, and it was very brief and tied strictly to the lig cut. > > But yes, I do agree that a younger and newer person to PE would likely have more gains from the hang time that I've invested, due to the fact that they would likely produce more collagen and cellular growth then a 43 year old. Okay then, even going from 5.75' to 6.5' is impressive, wouldn't you agree? 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I'm certainly not complaining ![:-)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/emoticons/9.png ":-)") But .75" growth in 20 years is definitely slow growth. I know it's because my length stopped being a big priority after the lig cut, as I had gained a considerable amount and I was pretty satisfied. So the years went by and I only nominally did PE exercises for extra length. That's why .25" of my .75" growth has only happened within the last 7 months. 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I'll be back in my apartment later this week so I'll do a measurement then. However, if I were to guess it's pretty much the same but I wouldn't be surprised if it's slightly thicker. 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Yep, that was pretty much me in the 90s. If you were in New York during that time, you know that a lot of the downtown scene was kind of like the 70s. They'd shut down St. Marks between 2nd and 3rd Ave, and it was always a party south of 14th St. I used to wear my most stylish vintage threads and hang out at the Den of Thieves on Houston Street, sipping Merlot while swaying to cool trip hop and acid jazz, while visually seducing young ladies from across the room. Now there are kids walking around in penny loafers buying Slurpees at 7-Eleven. 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Guys and gals (I know there are females here too), behold the most accurate depiction you'll ever get of lower NYC...then and now. I'm literally applauding. Damn! 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Bravo! 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