TOPIC: bolkonsky's penis from 6x5 to 8x6.5 plz input! plz help!

"a big part of me just wants to go get PMMA done and bypass lig cutting so i can be 6" Girth."

Good idea

Bolkonsky have you tried Clamping for Girth?

Thank you LL. Yes an extra .25" is absolutely noticeable. I'm leaning away from cutting the LIG just because i dont think it will really do anything for My EL. Plus i have blond hair and a scar there would look terrible and quite an eye catcher.

I might do the lig cut eventually if they offer it laparoscopically. The Big scar there just seems so unappealing. Funny thing is because i really dont care too much about the aesthetics issue because i'm going with 30% and am okay with a few lumps.

I know your supposed to limit your sets to 20min only, but in the morning i do at least one 30min set while cooking and getting ready for my day. Its really not an inconvenience at all. Its more of a ritual really. I think i'll be doing this just to keep things limber for the rest of my life. Its also great for EQ.


Update.

I know i dont have pics up yet but I'm pretty sure i'm almost at 7.75"BPEL. but i know i'm a tad over 7.5"BPEL.... I'm really just wanted to solidify 7.5" before my procedure in two weeks. Getting nervous!

Also the guys who are doing all the "smashing" are the good looking, charming guys who get loads of women. Those attributes don't correlate with Dick size at all so there's probably a lot of guys doing all the smashing who have pretty average or small dicks.

Great sex for a girl is about confidence, knowing what you are doing and being really into it visually and mentally.

I would know as I have been fortunate to be blessed with the ability to be able to charm and have sex with a lot of women. So much so that it became a bit of an addiction and I had to actively stop myself from picking up women purely for sex. Girl's lose sensitivity and get bored if you just ram them with a massive Cock, it feels great in our heads but realistically there are much better ways to please a girl with much more success. You need to vary things and I would say a gentle passionate but sexy approach is often a lot more successful. Of course being well endowed helps if you take things slow but in the tick boxes of all the things you can be doing it rates pretty low in terms of priority.

I would say being in shape and having a good knowledge of your own body and controlled dominant movement is really important. You could have a monster Cock that is rock hard but if you look and move awkwardly and can't kiss well, etc then the girl is not going to be mentally stimulated and won't be able to cum.

yea the prison beading is what got me thinking to go the surgery rout. That was before i knew about PMMA. Its amazing that some guys had their tooth brush parts in their dicks for years with no issues.. Well no issues that they told me about.

I'm Hanging straight down while i cook breakfast and eat. I know i need to do some different angles. when i pull on my Dick straight up or even up and to the side i feel a totally different pull on different ligaments. I'm sure i'm maxed out on the btc and straight down because i can hang 25lbs with a hard btc angle (between the cheeks; for the newbs) with no issues.

I just bought a house so i dont have the time to hang alot. I need to do fulcrum Hanging. I know i'll gain like crazy if i do. As soon as i'm done moving and getting things set up i'm going to make some really good gains this year i'm sure.

If any mods would make this into a progress report and delete the title "plz help plz input" i would appreciate it.

Centurion - thank you for that lengthy response. You are really helping me out. I've already gained 1.25 permanent inches with Hanging.. I know i can get another .5 if i just keep at it. I'm so glad i can jelq post PMMA. That really puts my mind at ease. EQ means alot to me as Jelqing really helps in that that department.

Mustang - Thanks man after reading your posts I've now read "miracle 8x7" log so i'm still learning alot. His pre PMMA Dick looks very close to mine. so i'm a little excited that i could get to his monster status someday.

I may just have to settle for a 7.5" x 6.5" lol not too bad. my wife just had a kid and i havnt gotten able to try out the tunnel yet (first kid) but i'm very scared. reading Miracle's progress log really has restorted my faith in humanity.. Its amazing how awesome guys can be together when there is a common goal and common good.

as long as i can hang after i get PMMA, and i feel like i can at minimum maintain a 7.25" BPEL i would be happy..

I like to hang with around 20 lbs. Does anyone see a problem with that post PMMA?

I tried stretching and pumping for a few months. It was fun but it interfered with my daily life and work so much and I had minimal gains. There was a point of diminishing returns which at best where like 1/8"-1/4" and with other factors involved that effected EL, such as EQ, mental and physical state and others, it did not make sense to me. I did not think it was worth it.

I was close to 6" Erect, I don't think that any woman will EVER tell the difference between 6" and 6.35"! I stopped and never looked back. Sure, I'd love to have 0.5"-1" of extra EL, but for who? for my own ego or for the ladies who can't even guess if they have a 5" or 6" penis. As long as they are happy sexually they don't give a dam.

Girth on the other hand IS attainable and quick, researched and done properly, so that where I put my energy and money. I made a huge mistake with the elist implant and thank heaven I got rid of it and got PMMA.

I think it just makes sex easier. Positions where your not slamming in your whole dong in (which is most positions), yes extra length comes in handy greatly. With a petite girl (asians) i'm too much. But i like the thick mama's... haha The thicker the woman the more Dick is not going in the vag.

I think 6 nbpel is plenty for good sex.. but the one thing women always want it MORE..

I think where 8" + would be most beneficial is when a girl is on top and leaning forward. If they are turned on then their cervix is 'tented' or retracted up, plus if they are leaning forward then gravity is helping move it out of they way. Then you can go way deeper. I often put a magic bullet or two in and then fuck my wife. Thats like 2 to 3 extra inches deeper than i can go. Once they are fully aroused its amazing how deep the vagina goes.

with a longer Dick you just have to be aware of the cervix really. back when i was only 6" (i may have been a bit smaller even, not sure) i only sometimes bumped into that thing. I never thought too much about it. but now i make sure a girl is fully aroused before i go all the way in.

my wife has been with almost nothing but black dudes before me (i'm white) she has talked to me about how huge her exes were. I know she can take a monster. It honestly doesn't bother me too much.. I'm strange i know. If i want to go deep with her i can just put on an extender or put in some magic bullets... I'm wanting PMMA for the thickness, thats where it counts.

centurion - With the grip Hanging system do you use it as an ADS at work? or do you just hang around the house with it an use something else for an ADS?

It just doesn't seem like i could carry around my vacu-tech pump at work every time i had to take a leak.. lol ... I did see that little 'black pump'.

Do you know if they make just a tube that i could carry and suck on with my lips? I suppose i could make one. What do you do?

Penis-Hanger- Thanks for your post man. I am a seasoned bodybuilder so i definitely do have the longterm mindset here.

Definitely, bypass the lig cut - Jelqing is just sort of intense massage, I don't see how it would do anything but help - Turtling has the worst effect on outcome and Jelqing is the opposite of that, plus it is massage.

It does not move around - at least mine does not - it is not a liquid once it sets, its collagen. I can't feel it in me - what is original and what is from PMMA.

I went into the lig cut blind. I was much younger (21 years ago) and there were no such things as PB sites. I went down to FL for a dermal fat graft and just before the surgery he told me about the lig cut for $1,500 more and I said sure why not - I never had an issue about my length but had a really casual attitude about it. The nurse said to me you really don't need it but it was a well, I'm here let's do it what can go wrong decision. I could have really fucked myself with that attitude.

Technically it came out great in the sense that I have no scars, no length reduction that some people get, I did gain Flaccid length but it really does nothing for Erect length. To have a meaningful effect on your Erect length you would need to have a few extra inches of Dick inside you that is suddenly released but one one does. The most it does is make your Flaccid closer to your Erect length when the temp is warm. It will still turtle somewhat. But rigorous Hanging does the same thing in terms of a longer Flaccid. It is a big waste of money. I always tell guy's hang for a year or two and see if have success. If you do keep it up and if you don't a lig. cut wasn't going to work for you anyway. Any doctor that tells you it increases Erect length is not telling you the truth and knows it, so I'd stay away from them. I saw one doctor say on their site recently that it helps with Flaccid length and may lead to a .5" Erect length with Hanging. Assuming that you have no bad outcomes, that is actually the most you can hope for. Not worth a surgery.

Hanging works - you just need to put the time in IMO. It worked for me but when I did it I really did it obsessively. So my advice is don't do it - hang and do the PMMA if that is where you want to go.

Thanks guys. I so so appreciate the kind words. I'm really trying like hell to get to 7.75"BPEL.

TBH i'm split on the lig cutting thing. If it were to give me .25" in Erect length, for me, it would be worth the $4.5k (i got a quote) but i'm not so sure it would as my ligs are already quite limber from all my Hanging.

About 3 to 4 months ago i was a immature 7.5"BPEL and now i'm a very mature and consistent 7.5"BPEL. I've stopped measuring so much now and really just trying to get to that fatigue and ride it for as long as i can. I'm starting to hang less this month and get my Dick ready to heal up for my up coming procedure. This week i'm only Hanging 4 sets per day. Next week it will only be three. Then two sets per day... THEN PMMA BITCHES! lol I think i'm going to give my Dick a good 6 weeks to heal up (maybe 8, i'm not too sure yet) before i try and start Hanging again. I'll try light manual stretches for 30 min every day (maybe twice knowing how neurotic i am)to keep things limber and Hanging long. i might wrap more if i'm not going to be Hanging. And i'll certainly ADS more.

I'll be sure to keep everyone posted.

Sup ya'll.. I think i'll make this my progress thread.

I'm scheduled for the 10th of October i think. I have to double check. I've been super busy lately.

And its a Peni-master-pro. Its okay. Sometimes i like it sometimes i dont.




I'm only at 7.5"BPEL still... Its frustrating because i know i can get to at least the 7.75"BPEL. I was hopeing to get there before my first procedure/round but I guess 7.5" will have to do.

bobbob. I dont know bud. I've really maxed out all my newbie gains and then some. I'm honestly thinking to get .5" of length it might take me a solid and consistent 4 years of Hanging. For me it would be worth it. And i intend to. I'm in this game for life. The most true words ever spoken about PE is that it is a marathon not a sprint.

Bolkonsky wrote: bobbob. I dont know bud. I've really maxed out all my newbie gains and then some. I'm honestly thinking to get .5" of length it might take me a solid and consistent 4 years of Hanging. For me it would be worth it. And i intend to. I'm in this game for life. The most true words ever spoken about PE is that it is a marathon not a sprint.

To guys reading this who want PE gains, this is the kind of dedication you need to have. The reason why many of you fail is because you simply lack of this kind of dedication. On the one hand I sympathize because it is so damn hard to gain length, and it almost feels like it shouldn't have to be. But it's just the way it is right now, and you have to go through a seriously long and tedious process to get results. It all comes down to whether it's worth it for you.