TOPIC: 2 weeks post op with Dr. Heller. Lumpy and depressed.

Hunkydory01 wrote: I talked to him 2 days ago and he said it was much improved.

Did you see any pics or anything? I was hoping to hear about his progress.

indiano123 wrote: Is that the most he will inject? Honestly i believe you should have Massaged the same day. Thats what dr c tells everyone because stuff like this happened. I still say massage buddy and possibly try dsmo to make lump smaller. Overall it doesnt look too bad.

He prefers to work in only 5cc amounts. He was willing to do more, but I didn't feel like dropping $7000 on 10ccs of Bellafill. I'm honestly glad I didn't. If this is 5ccs what would have 10 looked like? I'll check out DSMO and will update as I go.

Looking back I have to agree with you on the massaging. He really gave no advice in person other than rest it for a week and massage if I see any lumps. I figure listening to the Doctor is a good policy. However, in hindsight, how would I have known there were lumps to massage if it was completely swollen?

Even a lot of the mixed gels were too intense for me - they irritated my skin. The other thing to know is that I massaged it into my dick all over the top and that was a mistake - it was way too much. There are a few threads on here on how to apply - mixed with apple cider vinegar I think etc. I never figured out how to use it without irritating my skin but it is doable - phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/dms...=dmso&pid=1276883920

why did you split up with her?

Also sorta seems like a rip off to pay $3500 for just 5cc when dr c charges $3000 for 20cc only difference is the expenses u have to pay with going to mexico. 5cc isnt really enough to fill out everywhere. I just say really aggressively massage and use dsmo. I think it looks fine maybe im crazy but its not bad. Did you see how big the syringe was and did he use multiple syringes or just one big one? Also how much entry poibts did he use?

Hey, don't stop massaging, right now it is your best friend. Feel free to use a lot of force pushing down to flatten the big spots that are like macaroni. The thing with Bellafill is that it has a very slow acting carrier so unlike PMMA where the carrier is basically absorbed and the remainder fixed by the 4th day - Bellafill can take a lot longer as the carrier is bovine collagen.
I would not get depressed yet. If you read this board guys use all sorts of things from rolling it out with shampoo bottles, massage, do what you can to massage it into place. You may feel like you are starting over the next day but that's OK just keep doing it. Also pull you glans out and then with your free hand use your thumb and push everything up toward the base using a rocking motion - kind of like you are rolling your thumb up your Dick. Gravity will have a way of pulling everything down.
Also it rarely ever looks good after 1 round. PMMA and I assume Bellafill, does not absorb evenly, there are high and low spots, entry site nodules etc. Mine all went away with little intervention other than massaging and have smaller follow up rounds to target the areas I didn't like - it all worked out in the end.
Heller is known for not mixing or opening the products in front of the patient. Not saying that he is using faux products - I don't he would risk losing his license.
It is way to soon to tell what is a real lump at least with PMMA there are so many changes, residual swelling, fluid areas - don't freak but don't think of this as a one shot deal - it rarely is - just get it as good as you can working on the lumps, and with HA they do go away after a month or so in general. They need to absorb water I believe and it softens.

great post!

10003 wrote: Hey, don't stop massaging, right now it is your best friend. Feel free to use a lot of force pushing down to flatten the big spots that are like macaroni. The thing with Bellafill is that it has a very slow acting carrier so unlike PMMA where the carrier is basically absorbed and the remainder fixed by the 4th day - Bellafill can take a lot longer as the carrier is bovine collagen.
I would not get depressed yet. If you read this board guys use all sorts of things from rolling it out with shampoo bottles, massage, do what you can to massage it into place. You may feel like you are starting over the next day but that's OK just keep doing it. Also pull you glans out and then with your free hand use your thumb and push everything up toward the base using a rocking motion - kind of like you are rolling your thumb up your Dick. Gravity will have a way of pulling everything down.
Also it rarely ever looks good after 1 round. PMMA and I assume Bellafill, does not absorb evenly, there are high and low spots, entry site nodules etc. Mine all went away with little intervention other than massaging and have smaller follow up rounds to target the areas I didn't like - it all worked out in the end.
Heller is known for not mixing or opening the products in front of the patient. Not saying that he is using faux products - I don't he would risk losing his license.
It is way to soon to tell what is a real lump at least with PMMA there are so many changes, residual swelling, fluid areas - don't freak but don't think of this as a one shot deal - it rarely is - just get it as good as you can working on the lumps, and with HA they do go away after a month or so in general. They need to absorb water I believe and it softens.

indiano123 wrote: Have you tried dsmo? If you do go to dr c i suggest asking for a full round of silkon1000 or silkon and PMMA to cover the irregularities. Have you tried pumping and massaging, its sort of possible you pump up and then aggressively massage. Sorry this happened man, but do you think u will ever go back to heller?

i've been massaging non-stop every day. no dice. it's settled in. I'm not sure where to pick up any DSMO locally, though I live near Manhattan, so it can't be that hard to find if I know where to look. Perhaps online.
Heller is still acting like this is a normal outcome of the procedure. He offered no suggestions for post care. I even asked about wrapping and the like immediately after the procedure, and he told me "he doesn't believe in all that." I paid the man $3500 for a Peyronie's-esk lumpy Dick with less than a .25" increase that my girlfriend doesn't want to touch. I would strongly advise never going to see this man for PMMA. I will certainly not be going back. I've contacted Avanti Derma and sent Wade the latest set of photographs on Friday. waiting for a response.

good luck and ask as many questions as possible, have the dr take lots of photos and get what u want...

Lexus27 wrote: Thank you for sharing.i will not be going to Heller. My appointment is booked with dr.c and wade for April.

learn from my mistakes, brother.

I wouldn't worry too much about the lumps. To me it looks like a relatively easy fix. 1 round of 10% (just 10cc) and then a round of S1000. I think the lumps might be too big to hide with S1000 alone, but a round of 10% should be able to smooth things out enough, for you to be able to go back and get any uneven spots fixed with S1000.

I pm'd him a while ago and he has not answered. I see he hasn't been on here in a while though. I think I still have his WhatsApp, I'll reach out tomorrow.

Slightly off topic, but 10003's (just change it back it to HD ffs!) post reminded me. But I used Hyaluronidase on myself to get rid of Teosyal. It is quite a stressful thing to do yourself btw. However, I also had some Voluma at the top, just below the glans and I never injected it with hyaluronidase. Anyway, it's been almost exactly a year and over the last few weeks I've seen the Juverderm noticeably start to shrink, to the point now I can't really detect it. So in my case, Voluma lasted about a year for those interested .

Howd it go?

About the 1 month mark (27 days) post op. I really hope the second round, regardless of where I get it done, improves on the first.