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#  TOPIC: Loria, Mirza, Heller, or Dr C?

##  Re: Loria, Mirza, Heller, or Dr C?

   9 years 8 months ago [\#1294114668](#1294114668)

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 Look it up and read on it.

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##  Re: Loria, Mirza, Heller, or Dr C?

   9 years 8 months ago [\#1294111598](#1294111598)

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 Are you aware of possible complications? Before deciding to do this you need to be absolutely sure you are fully aware to what you are committing to.

There are no decent permanent options in the US. Loria offers plain old silicone injections. The PMMA that is available in the US uses a bovine carrier that takes two weeks to absorb so isn't good for bioplasty.

Outside of the US Dr C isn't the only option. There is also Dr N in Prague and Dr Passy in Brazil.

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##  Re: Loria, Mirza, Heller, or Dr C?

   9 years 8 months ago [\#1294114947](#1294114947)

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 So if Bellafil isn't permanent.... then neither is Metacril/Linnea Safe.

From Beallafil site. "Bellafill' is the only injectable collagen treatment with PMMA (polymethylmethacrylate) microspheres approved for the correction of moderate to severe, atrophic, distensible facial acne scarson the cheek in patients over the age of 21 years."

From Real self doctor: "Bellafill is a semi-permanent Dermal Filler used for acne scars. The collagen provides immediate volume below pitted scars or nasolabial folds to lift them to the level of the surrounding skin. Results are immediate and long lasting. May last up to 5 years"

"Bellafill is essentially permanent. It is a particulate filler that is composed
of a very small amount of PMMA or tiny (40 micron) beads that act as a bio-stimulant. They are non-resorbable. The rest of each syringe of Bellafill (90%)
is comprised of collagen. Bovine
collagen is an old style filler that only lasts 3 months. As it is absorbed over the 3 to 6 months
after an injection of Bellafill, the PMMA stimulates your cells to make new
tissue, replacing the collagen. The formal FDA studies show that Bellafill will last AT
LEAST 5 YEARS and there are informal studies going back to the original formulations
that show t is still there at 15 years!
I have many patients who still have nice volume replacement at 9 years. Different Doctor: " Bellafill injectable restores rather then just fills, for natural, enduring results. Bellafill is not permanent and the amount of time that it last is different from every patient. Bellafill is a bio stimulant and works with your body to jump start your collagen growth with the PMMA's that are placed in the areas that you had filled. Bellafill is a great product, and i highly recommend it ! I hope this helps you on your journey!"

Looks like nobody actually knows the permanency of PMMA.

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##  Re: Loria, Mirza, Heller, or Dr C?

   9 years 8 months ago [\#1294121604](#1294121604)

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 There's nothing to toughen up lol. You can't just suck it up when something like that has been done to you by your parents. You sound like my father. You don't know me fully so it's hard to gage.

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##  Re: Loria, Mirza, Heller, or Dr C?

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 I am moving on by getting PMMA and I'm going to get the highest volume possible because Circumcised men can do it and uncircumcised men can't so I'm glad.

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##  Re: Loria, Mirza, Heller, or Dr C?

   9 years 8 months ago [\#1294127763](#1294127763)

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 Yeah I'm a big fan of Chris Hitchens
I despise his brother though

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##  Re: Loria, Mirza, Heller, or Dr C?

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 Didn't Wade say that PMMA is better for guys that are Circumcised? I saw how it looks on a Circumcised penis and am impressed so that's making me feel better. I'm in no rush to get PMMA, I tried Foreskin restoration and stopped because PMMA is better for cut guys anyway and now I just condition myself with regular PE daily.

Here's why I'm a little bit upset, I have not gotten even an apology from my parents. The way they go about it is what I don't like. Also I'm a bit taken back by the fact they pay for an expensive wedding for my sister that lasted a year. I told my family that the marriage wasn't going to work out but they yelled at me and said I know nothing.

They won't even chip in for PMMA when I start making money. I said that's the only thing that would make me feel better because it looks better on Circumcised guys and that if they chipped in it would make me feel a whole lot better but my dad in particular would say F off and that really steams my pot after they payed for a lavish wedding and my sister ends up cheating and they praise her.

All they talk about is how bad of a guy my sisters husband is and how he owes them money while I suffer in deep depression. My dad said what is this obsession with your penis, I should have said why were you so obsessed with my penis that you needed to cut me. It's like I bring facts to the table and I bring very legit reasons for being depressed and they are ignorant to it and that's what I don't like.

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##  Re: Loria, Mirza, Heller, or Dr C?

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 The name of this thread seems wrong. It mis-directs from the comparism that one might be looking for ...

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##  Re: Loria, Mirza, Heller, or Dr C?

   9 years 8 months ago [\#1294123677](#1294123677)

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##  Re: Loria, Mirza, Heller, or Dr C?

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> smalljohnny wrote:
>
> Are you really having an open discussion with your parents on making your penis bigger, and wanting them to chip in for it? Lol!
>
> Millions of parents in USA make a decision to circumcise their son each year, and it's not because they are obsessed with their son's penis.
>
> It's also custom for the parents of the bride to pay for the wedding.
>
> You need to chill out and sort out your logic!

Watch the video reklaw posted. You obviously no nothing of Circumcision.

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##  Re: Loria, Mirza, Heller, or Dr C?

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> Lexus27 wrote: @cashew I have no experience with PMMA besides what I've studied here on this board and my own research online. I only have experience with dr.loria and I've had several consultations with both dr.mirza and dr.heller and heller is not a bad guy it's just that he pushes the FFT that i don't want. Dr.Mirza is just a joke and lies about his so called Bellafill injections which some have said he doesn't even open up the pack or mixes it in front of you. Bellafill is not permanent and only last 3-5 years. In my opinion since your title asked for our opinion dr.c is the best choice by far. Why go so far out to any other country for PMMA when more than half the board has been to dr.c and more will follow through as well. Believe me don't waste your time searching for any other DR, Dr.c has great tracking and yes nothing is perfect but all I'm saying is that if you are going to pull the trigger on penis enlargement go with dr.c. Also as hoddle has said everything isn't for everybody so take note he's a veteran. Btw i live in nyc as well and i plan on booking my appointment soon as tomorrow for 2017. If you want to pm me you are welcome to.

How is it not permanent? It's PMMA is it not? Why would Metacril/Linnea be permanent but Bellafil not?

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##  Re: Loria, Mirza, Heller, or Dr C?

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 You can't really quantify a Dr's work and declare him the best. This board has a lot of Dr C patients so you can see the results he gets with various approaches and decide what you feel is best for you. That's the main adavantage with Dr C. For example, I've seen enough guys get 30% PMMA from Dr C to know it wasn't for me. I basically tailored my procedure as a consequence of the results I've seen here.

Bellafill is PMMA, but is uses a bovine based carrier which takes 2 weeks to absorb. The Brazilian PMMA products use a water based carrier that only takes a couple of days to absorb, so is better for biolplasty.

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##  Re: Loria, Mirza, Heller, or Dr C?

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 I plan to have HA injected by Dr. Heller soon. When I was in his waiting area there were a lot of guys coming in for Phalloplasty, and he has been doing it for many years already, however there are very little reviews on his work for this area. He does have many good reviews for other cosmetic procedures like breast augmentation, facial injections, liposuction, etc. I don't know of his experience with PMMA though, don't think he even does it. I would suggest try HA first before you go with a permanent filler like PMMA.

Why is the fact that you are Circumcised making you depressed anyway? I am also Circumcised, and while I wish I had a choice instead of my parents making the decision for me, it really is not a big deal. I spoke to many females regarding this topic and many of them prefer the look of a Circumcised penis.

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##  Re: Loria, Mirza, Heller, or Dr C?

   9 years 8 months ago [\#1294123219](#1294123219)

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 Cashew, I know full well that you can suck it up. I was cut as an infant, too, as were probably 90% of my friends.
You have three options:
sulk, wallow in pity, stomp your foot and say "it's not fair."accept ittry Foreskin restoration

Look, of course I do not know the dynamic of your family, but it sounds your parent's are more concerned with you gaining employment than with your Circumcision status and that bothers you. Honestly, if I did not have a job, my Circumcision status would fall WAY down the list of my worries. If you want to move south, go for it. You are an adult.

Realize that PMMA or silicone or fat injections are not going to be a magic solution to fixing problems you have with your body and with your parents.

Fix that issue first and then come back to PE.

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##  Re: Loria, Mirza, Heller, or Dr C?

   9 years 8 months ago [\#1294153974](#1294153974)

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> Cashew wrote:
> Watch the video reklaw posted. You obviously no nothing of Circumcision.

I am curcumcised myself and I do wish I had the choice instead of someone doing it for me. I am not going to get depressed over it and whine to my parents for making that decision for me. I know that in their mind it was intended for my benefit. I am against Circumcision, but what was done is done so move on and don't circumcise your son if you have one.

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