TOPIC: Linnea Safe w/ Camacho-Melo is going to be available

Thanks for the support guys. I am going to quit the smokes. And the beer. It's all pissing the wife off. My thing is that's my revenge to her for never giving me sex. Then I feel shitty for binging. I don't know how to make the trip though. I have the money but I don't know how I make it through a 4.5 hour flight. I hate flying and have panic attacks.
Any ideas how I can pull it off? Thanks again.
Kcchief

Yeah, Mustang I think you're right - and also I have my degloving scar there too - which might make it even worse. PMMA likes to stick to that scar... which you can kinda see in my b/a photos. It also migrates to the small gap above the deglove scar for some odd reason. I'm actually not sure if Dr. C-M has 10%. I think Dan said they just use 30 but I'm sure they can easily get 10. He really went out of his way to get Linnea Safe, so I'd assume he could get 10%. Does anyone know if Dr. N puts 10% above the circ scar - or are all her patients uncut so far? I think with the C-M and Dr. N approach, they only use 1 insertion point...so maybe it's hard to be as precise about what goes where. Dr. C uses 6 generally.

Hoodle - yeah I was thinking about that... i just felt awkward bringing that up, so i didn't really say it - but he knows I post here. Maybe they don't really need to advertise or they know I'm gonna post about it regardless? I don't know. I wonder whatever happened to the free PMMA to someone who agreed to being taped. I think a review from a long term member would be just as good as that, if not better - since I'd post 3 & 6 months out...and board gets picked up by google a lot. Anyway, I'm still trying to decide if I should even go there, regardless of price. I guess if it was free, I'd still have some questions about it like if they'd put 10% above the circ scar and how much Linnea Safe they need...and if it's different than metacrill. And if I can see more after pics, etc.

Kcchief - you should talk to your doctor about it...most won't have a problem with short term prescription of benzodiazapenes for flying (valium, ativan, klonopin). Sometimes, u need to see a psychiatrist because benzos are getting more and more obsessively controlled in many states now. Usually if you just use them a few times, it's fine. You might get tired or feel like a zombie, so generally you'd be best off trying out the dose at home before you're on a plane. The ideal would be to get 0.5 mg tablets of klonopin (clonazapam), and 10 of them...and you could take up to 3 for a flight. So, there's 6 + 4 extra to test or use later. There is also klonopin that dissolves under your tounge, and it is faster acting if you feel panicky on the plane. They last 6+ hrs. It takes 30 min to take effect orally, but the tounge ones are faster. They are very addictive if used daily for 3-4 weeks (way worse than cigarettes with quite an array of negative cognitive effects that cigarettes don't have). Likewise, 10 mg valium (diazapam) or 1 mg ativan (lorazapam) up to 3 tablets mg per flight would make you pretty chill also. Ativan is probably the best bet since you won't be in a daze that long after it wears off.

Smoking and alchol? I won't get good results? I smoke like a crazy and drunk like a fish.
Man I guess I am screwed. Damn wanted to do PMMA in May. Any other smokers and
Drinkers? I would like to read there progress reports.
Kcchief

Oh - yea I see exactly what you mean. Do you remember some of the old progress reports where guys would post that "doughnut" swelling after the procedure? It's been a while since I've looked through the 2011-12 progress pics, so I can't remember if that cause prolonged problems without going back in those journals - but I remember that ring happened to many guys... but I think it dissipated? I even posted it happening to me after Verapamil injections (peyronies intralesional treatment) way back in the early part of my journal because I was thinking - maybe the penis just swells in this area more than other areas for some reason... as the immediate "Trauma swelling" in a penile injction. And perhaps, it is not where the PMMA will grow (though it could - because the skin is being stretched by the swelling here more). It does appear that the PMMA does not go all the way up to the glans - or maybe they tapered it a bit to avoid the beer can thing.

I'll ask dan via email if he has any b/a pics of this particular guy since he was (a) Circumcised and (b) probably a couple months post op now. I don't know if he'll have them or if I could even post that here - but that would definitely be helpful to see.

There is an inherint situation with the use of PMMA in the penis, its final shape unpredictability when first injected in the penis. The placement of PMMA as we all know, is very crucial to the final look of the penis. I am sure almost every one knows that there is a carrier fluid that has the PMMA beads in it. After injection, there is swelling, and then the carrier gets absorbed by the body. Now the PMMA beads will cause collagen to build up. So, if the carrier is not "holding" the beads in an even and consistent pattern when first injected, there will be more beads in one area vs the other. Wrong initial massaging will exaggerate the problem and may cause more beads to bunch up in one area which will cause ring, bulges, dips and sags once collagen has built up.

The first 48 hrs are the most crucial as we understand it. So, if you have a good Dr, good quality PMMA, the final results depends on the patient's penis shape and skin, initial massaging, general health, age, smoking, alcohol and so on.

I believe this is the main issue why everyone's results are different and in some cases unexplainable such as the "no gains" that have been reported here...

I think Dr C and Wade so far present the best team in this area of PE. Hundreds have trusted him with their life, pretty much: their penises

As I said before, I welcome a quality PMMA competitor in this area....

"Happy NEW YEAR TO ALL READERS of this wonderful informative site"

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Just a word of caution, the meds recommended above are the most popular and have been used for years with known benefits and side effects but they are highly addictive. If you have an addiction to other stuff, like smoking and drinking, then you have a high risk of replacement of addiction.

Stop smoking and drinking cold turkey is not easy, you need some support system to get you through this tough times. PMMA can wait. You have to stop these habits not for the sake of PMMA, but for the sake of saving your life and other's around you.

It is best to get some professional help first and get through the first stages. Once you feel ready, I mean really ready, go for PMMA....

Good Luck man!

Dan told me that Dr. Camacho will be offering Linnea Safe as well as Metacrill. They are a little bit more expensive than Dr. C, but not that much more. They drop the price after each round as well, similar to Dr. C. Unfortunately I'd be R1 there (when I'm at 3 for Dr. C)

Here's some of the differences / potential benefits I'm curious to discuss with anyone here.

- Erect injection
- Linnea Safe instead of metacrill (though they use metacrill only right now- LS is on its way)
- 30% under the glans instead of 10 (less gap, but Nodule risk?)
- Only 1 entry point instead of 6

Cons
- Not many reviews / patients who have gone through this yet.

Question
- Haven't heard from a LS patient in a while. Didn't they seem to need less PMMA?
- Session 1 for Camacho vs 3 for Casavantes is over 1k difference. But I really just want one last round, so if this is a better route, I'd rather do it...though Dr. C and Wade know me & maybe that's the best way to go. Plus it's much cheaper.

New1inch wrote:

kcchief wrote: Smoking and alchol? I won't get good results? I smoke like a crazy and drunk like a fish.
Man I guess I am screwed. Damn wanted to do PMMA in May. Any other smokers and
Drinkers? I would like to read there progress reports.
Kcchief

Why don't you just stop doing both? That sounds rediculous. JUST STOP! Alcohol tastes gross and cigarettes make u smell like a walking ash-tray and fucks up you lungs. Why are you looking for reasons to continue to harm your body? JUST STOP doing both. Simple, then get your PMMA in May. Easy fix!! I solved your dilemma for you.

I must agree 100%.

Ash tray no smell good!

kcchief wrote: Mustang. What is tight skin in the circ area? Phallocare has a YouTube video on the procudure. Looking for opions on it. Kcchief

It is the skin from just behind the glans to where the circ scar ends.

typically speaking, it is a different color than the rest of the penile shaft skin. It is tight skin and PMMA does not like to stay there well. This is of course for the Circumcised people.

Hey SO... so far, I know they got it through www.linneasafe.com.br/distribuidores/ . This took a while - I was in touch with Dan since that post on the erect procedure appeared here. It was a huge pain to get - because the distributors don't answer the phone or email (I called them myself too - it's frustrating)...and they only speak Portuguese (which my friend speaks, but it didn't help since nobody answers!). Dan said he called / emailed about 10 of them. They are going to put it on the site once they get their first shipment in, but he said they were going to order it for me asap if I wanted to go with them. I asked Dan about the price - and it is a little more expensive, but they said they would keep the price the same for my case (I think they are trying to build up the practice, so he didn't see the point to charge me $200 more or whatever right now).

Yeah - I have to ask Dan for more pics. The problem is, they mostly just have before and "after" - with after pics being the patient 1 hour post... not 2 weeks or 2 months post. Once they're done after a few days, guys leave. So, it's hard to get pics. I WISH some more people would post here. I mentioned the guy with that vague post - and Dan said it's definitely not fake, he just was apparently surprised he gave no info on the post. They're not trying to be shady at all (at one point, Dan was like - if I were you I'd go to Dr. C since they already know you and it's over 1k less... but if you come here, we'd be happy to have you.) My goal is just to be DONE with my penis. I mean, this mess started in 2010 with Peyronies & I just want it over with. Of course, I do not want nodules in the circ area, and I am not sure how they can avoid that... though I have a gap there due to the 30/10 drop off & tight skin. Casavantes is 100% against 30 there, and I told Dan that - but he said it hasn't been a problem. It's very confusing... guys here who even had 10% up there had nodules... so that does concern me.

Another possible advantage (at least to me) is Dan wraps it that day - and that is supposed to hold the PMMA in place (with coban) and then he unwraps it and massages out any lumps the next day. I hated the constant leaking and needing to massage it - though I don't know if this would make it more lumpy (or risk more lumps). Dan said it hasn't been a problem bc of the way they wrap it. Wade used to wrap it too...but now they prefer not to. I guess this whole procedure is just working out its techniques...and honestly Casavantes has 4+ years (i think?) on Camacho with this procedure. So, It would seem like I should obviously go to them - but I was just disappointed with my gains the last time. On the plus side, I had no lumps on R2 from Dr. C & wade seeing me after for 2 days.

I thought metacrill was going through something where gains were low in too many guys on here...and that Linnea Safe might give a better chance to get better gains. I got maybe 0.3 in my last round. Perhaps, it's just that I didn't ask for enough CCs because I was afraid of 30, but 17 seems lke a lot for 6". There are a few guys who said they gained a lot recently, but until 3 months, I don't know what to make of it (e.g., BriceB had good gains after his round - and then I think he said he basically got nothing later on - so is it the product? I don't know.. maybe.). Dan said Linnea Safe also was a well respected product in Brazil & so they were ok using it.

Anyway, that's all I know for now... I have to look into the older posts & would like to hear from guys with circ area issues and/or low gains from metacrill or anyone who used newplastic / linnea safe.

I can't even do r3 for a while anyway, so it's nothing urgent, but I'd be grateful for everyone's opinions.

I'm still very doubtful of the benefit of the Erect procedure. If you pause the video at 2.53 when Dan is holding the finished penis, isn't it clear that a "ring" is going to form at the circ line, or is it just me seeing this? It looks to men like it's bulging out where Dan's thumb and index finger are. I think the beginning of a "ring" is already clear and the PMMA doesn't go right up to the glans. Also, and again maybe it's just me, but doesn't it look like the issue of there not being as much PMMA at the base, due to less compliant skin, still there? Isn't there clearly a little ridge there?

Without close ups the video is pretty useless. In fact without a 2 months follow up, it's hard to gain anything of value from that clip. Hence, I think Phallocare should show the true worth of doing the procedure while Erect, on one of our well known members.

Like I said, pause the video at 2.53 and see if you can see the clear beginnings of a "ring" or ridge at the top and a clear ridge at the base.