--- title: "Implant Manifesto Discussion Thread - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Moderator Edit: For those who aren't aware, the The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicon Implant thread is not meant to be a back-and-forth..." url: "https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6318657-implant-manifesto-discussion-thread.html" date: "2026-08-06T20:43:46+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Implant Manifesto Discussion Thread ## Re: Implant Manifesto Discussion Thread 13 years 3 months ago [\#1277795612](#1277795612) - **[Obsessed](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1964118-obsessed.html "View Obsessed's Profile")** - [![Obsessed's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1964118-obsessed.html "View Obsessed's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1964118-obsessed.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 41 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1964118) Well Dog, I guess you signed all sorts of waivers before surgery, and I remember reading somewhere on here that no lawyer would accept this case because this Dr has an address book thick as my penis ( pun intended) but I wonder if a class action would be possible. There are lots of medical class action attorneys and you could share the costs. You may also want to report this guy to the medical licensing board. Of course if I was Elist I would read what is said about me in this forum so strategies would better be discussed via PM between the victims. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNjMxODY1Ny1pbXBsYW50LW1hbmlmZXN0by1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLXRocmVhZC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTE=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Implant Manifesto Discussion Thread 13 years 3 months ago [\#1277788320](#1277788320) - **[Obsessed](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1964118-obsessed.html "View Obsessed's Profile")** - [![Obsessed's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1964118-obsessed.html "View Obsessed's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1964118-obsessed.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 41 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1964118) Moderator Edit: For those who aren't aware, the The Implantee Manifesto Against Dr. Elist's Silicon Implant thread is not meant to be a back-and-forth discussion, but instead, a summation of accounts that discuss the issues with the silicone implant. So, per MM & Boston, I've setup a thread here to direct questions to any of the posters in the Manifesto thread, and/or to discuss any topics found in that thread. I'll start with moving the dialogue-based posts from the Manifesto thread here, starting with Obsessed's post first: Elist, " a good capable surgeon" ? Testicle implant is quite an easy procedure, it's been done for ages. The way a surgeon handles his patients is extremely important, and in fact it plays a proven role in recovery/healing process. That alone should disqualify Elist as a good surgeon. But the horror stories and lies with his practice in general, and implant in particular, are so horrifying that I thought no one would ever take the risk of recommending him to anyone. Implants is the first technique I learned about when I started researching PE, four years ago, and the name "elist" quickly became a red flag to me. I have read countless horror stories about him, and I wonder why nobody ever sued him. There are numerous other threads about this surgeon such as this one [ phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/Sud...cone-implant-5388556](http://phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/Sudden-trouble-with-Dr.-Elists-silicone-implant-5388556) And no one could be clearer than PatrickEire in [ phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/Tes...ant-Revision-5868488](http://phalloboards.websitetoolbox.com/post/Testicular-Implant-Revision-5868488) . Or, in his own words : "if you want to enhance your penis, or if you want to enlarge your testicles, then STAY THE HELL AWAY FROM ELIST. No matter how "depressing" your package is, it will be way more depressing after Dr Elist has finished his evil works" Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNjMxODY1Ny1pbXBsYW50LW1hbmlmZXN0by1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLXRocmVhZC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTE=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Implant Manifesto Discussion Thread 13 years 3 months ago [\#1277793718](#1277793718) - **[DOG](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1736772-dog.html "View DOG's Profile")** - [![DOG's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1736772-dog.html "View DOG's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1736772-dog.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 15 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1736772) I agree with Obsessed. I've had both the penile and testicular implants. Both felt VERY unnatural (Elist said they would feel like the real thing) and both have been removed. The testicles were removed because the edges were very apparent, they felt "hard as rocks (exact words from multiple sex partners), and it looked fake. The penis implant came undone within 6 months. When I went to see Elist about the penile implant, he actually wanted me to put a larger model in for more money. This is DEFINITELY not a DR who has your best interest at ![heart](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/emoticons/heart.png "heart"). I was speaking with Messageman during this whole ordeal (he was having his issues around the same time) so I knew Elist was lying when he said that he hadn't seen this type of issue with the implant. He Lied to my face. Elist also said that removal would be easy and you could go back what you started with. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE! My real testicles ride much higher than they did before, sometimes going into the cavity of my body making it look like you now have small balls or no balls at all (due to the scar tissue). My testicles are also much harder than they were before... My penis is a good inch shorter (from 8" to just below 7"). It is slightly thicker but it sticks out at an unnatural angle when flaccid. I still have a very noticeable scar in the pubic area (Elist removed the implant in his office). I was seriously unemployed during that time the trouble started with little income (after paying for the initial surgeries close to around $13,000), and if I had legal counsel I would sue this jerk. I still may. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNjMxODY1Ny1pbXBsYW50LW1hbmlmZXN0by1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLXRocmVhZC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTE=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Implant Manifesto Discussion Thread 13 years 3 months ago [\#1277822945](#1277822945) - **[Skeptical\_One](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile")** - [![Skeptical_One's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/avatars/resized/size144/users/avatar1704847.png?1781856569)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html "View Skeptical_One's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704847-skeptical-one.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 4979 - Thanks: 613 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704847) > DOG wrote: I agree with Obsessed. > > I've had both the penile and testicular implants. Both felt VERY unnatural (Elist said they would feel like the real thing) and both have been removed. The testicles were removed because the edges were very apparent, they felt "hard as rocks (exact words from multiple sex partners), and it looked fake. The penis implant came undone within 6 months. When I went to see Elist about the penile implant, he actually wanted me to put a larger model in for more money. This is DEFINITELY not a DR who has your best interest at ![heart](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/emoticons/heart.png "heart"). I was speaking with Messageman during this whole ordeal (he was having his issues around the same time) so I knew Elist was lying when he said that he hadn't seen this type of issue with the implant. He Lied to my face. > > Elist also said that removal would be easy and you could go back what you started with. NOT TRUE. NOT TRUE! > > My real testicles ride much higher than they did before, sometimes going into the cavity of my body making it look like you now have small balls or no balls at all (due to the scar tissue). My testicles are also much harder than they were before... > > My penis is a good inch shorter (from 8" to just below 7"). It is slightly thicker but it sticks out at an unnatural angle when flaccid. I still have a very noticeable scar in the pubic area (Elist removed the implant in his office). > > I was seriously unemployed during that time the trouble started with little income (after paying for the initial surgeries close to around $13,000), and if I had legal counsel I would sue this jerk. I still may. DOG, thanks for sharing your experiences as always. I moved this post since it was part of a back-and-forth discussion with Obsessed and Florida, however, would greatly appreciate if you would be willing to submit a post to the original Manifesto thread of your experiences in a format similar to Bostonman5555, thanks! Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNjMxODY1Ny1pbXBsYW50LW1hbmlmZXN0by1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLXRocmVhZC5odG1sP21hcmtkb3duPTE=) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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