--- title: "PMMA Ninja Turtle - Retraction Problems for GROWERS - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Hi Guys, Many of you already know me. For others here, I have had 3 session of PMMA. I started out with all 10% and was amazed at... - Page 4" url: "https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/6295995-pmma-ninja-turtle-retraction-problems-for-growers.html?start=45" date: "2026-08-06T17:02:43+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: PMMA Ninja Turtle - Retraction Problems for GROWERS ## Re: PMMA Ninja Turtle - Retraction Problems for GROWERS 13 years 3 months ago [\#1277632735](#1277632735) - **[HunkChunk](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715839-hunkchunk.html "View HunkChunk's Profile")** - [![HunkChunk's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715839-hunkchunk.html "View HunkChunk's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715839-hunkchunk.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 464 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1715839) Hi Skeptical One, Thanks for sharing your musings about this problem we both share in common. You went for thicker gains than me at first, so you pretty much beat me to the punch, but I seem to have caught up with you at least in terms of this undesired effect LOL. You can count on me to go the extra mile to find a solution as quickly as possible, because it is important that we all here find some answers to what ought to be both preventable and curable. I don't know just how much of a buried penis syndrome we might have, but I also turtle hard, my world record was a 1" Flaccid just prior to my 2nd PMMA Session, as if my unit knew the hardship that was awaiting it. Or possibly this was a sign that my unit was going to react very violently to that PMMA session, causing the extreme swelling that made the PMMA clump in large clusters? After viewing that extremely distasteful video that Hoddle linked to, showing a poor fellow's penis get butchered, I would really prefer avoiding having my tool "tacked" to the pelvis. I wish there were a less invasive method of getting the PMMA sheath to stick to the base. Maybe there is. If not I will still very much hesitate to get tacking done, because I went to great lengths to avoid pelvic scars, going to Russia for scrotal ligament cuts. Plus that's yet more penile trauma we can all wish to avoid. It sure would be nice to find a technical workaround for penis retraction. However, it is something which can afflict anyone, apparently. There are cases of severe retraction for "reasons unknown" that practically bury one's unit inside the pelvis. What causes this has not yet been properly assessed or explained by medical science, and some even believe it is magic: Penis Snatcher Strikes Fear with Handshake I remain convinced that it might take several methods in conjuction to come to grips with this problem. One is to improve the suppleness of any additional collagen growth, another to ensure it is somehow anchored to the base, manual PE stretching of tissues, finding a way to encourage some Flaccid bloodflow, and finally perhaps a medication to make one's unit less limp? I am thinking of tiny daily doses of Melanotan-II for myself, injected each morning, in order to provide a very slight semi-Flaccid. That way I might better survive the nude beach, while taking care that it isn't so much as to give me an equally embarrassing woody. Cheers, Hunk Chunk Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNjI5NTk5NS1wbW1hLW5pbmphLXR1cnRsZS1yZXRyYWN0aW9uLXByb2JsZW1zLWZvci1ncm93ZXJzLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA Ninja Turtle - Retraction Problems for GROWERS 13 years 3 months ago [\#1277766624](#1277766624) - **[Mustang2020](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile")** - [![Mustang2020's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html "View Mustang2020's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715850-mustang2020.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1795 - Thanks: 18 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1715850) Hi HC; I see what you mean about the base being smaller than mid shaft. Dr C can fix that of course. May be take a cailas one day before your next op and then another one two to three days post op. Then you will have a semi Erection for almost 4-5 days and the PMMA beads will settle down. I did that last time and it worked for me, but I do still have some dips and little Balls of PMMA but it is not too bad. On my next corrective round I hope Dr C will resolve most of these problems. there is also a cialas for daily use , I think. If you know you are going to have a girl soon or going to a nude beach/area, take a pill as needed.... Dude, how can you say NO to a gorgeous girl? you should be as hard as a baseball bat before she sees it, Or turn down the lights before you get going, and by the time you are touching each other, you will be Erect....LOL! Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNjI5NTk5NS1wbW1hLW5pbmphLXR1cnRsZS1yZXRyYWN0aW9uLXByb2JsZW1zLWZvci1ncm93ZXJzLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA Ninja Turtle - Retraction Problems for GROWERS 13 years 3 months ago [\#1277696227](#1277696227) - **[jlmb](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725729-jlmb.html "View jlmb's Profile")** - [![jlmb's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725729-jlmb.html "View jlmb's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725729-jlmb.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 294 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1725729) Its been about 7-8 months since R1, and I received 28cc mostly 20%. As I said before, my problem is really only there when prompted. I wasn't really a complete shower before, I just was capable of a lot of shrinkage situationally, like cold, bored, working out, etc. Most of the time it would be very normal. Which is why now, its mostly not a problem, just when I sit and hold it above my legs, or if I am wearing tight underwear. I'm just afraid with more and more PMMA the variety of siituations its an issue will increasee Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNjI5NTk5NS1wbW1hLW5pbmphLXR1cnRsZS1yZXRyYWN0aW9uLXByb2JsZW1zLWZvci1ncm93ZXJzLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA Ninja Turtle - Retraction Problems for GROWERS 13 years 3 months ago [\#1277681139](#1277681139) - **[HunkChunk](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715839-hunkchunk.html "View HunkChunk's Profile")** - [![HunkChunk's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715839-hunkchunk.html "View HunkChunk's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1715839-hunkchunk.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 464 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1715839) Hi jlmb, I see that this is a situation that any number of GROWERS who tend to turtle might have with PMMA. How long has it been since your first PMMA session, and what percentage did you have injected? Did he taper it or make is cylindrical with just one percentage used? I would recommend you hold off for a few weeks before round two until we can sort out how Dr C can best answer this very legitimate preoccupation. It isn't anything medically serious, as nobody ever died of the tennis ball look, but we might die of shame when pointed at and laughed at by bevies of pretty ladies calling us "Bubble Dick!" LOL. In another thread in this forum I am pursuing another avenue to possibly resolve this issue, by enlarging the glans in Korea to prevent it from burying in deep inside a PMMA sheath when retracting? In this case it would probably push the outer layer back up towards the pelvis when retracting, the ridge of the glans pressing against the edge of the PMMA layer and hopefully pressing it up along the shaft instead of outwards around the glans. I bet that guys tend to notice more than woman whether a unit is original or not. Possibly because the focus is more "dickcentric" and also because they've always had their own for comparison purposes. I've noticed that woman don't really know what a normal unit should look like, and they are less into them "except when in use" LOL. Hunk Chunk Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNjI5NTk5NS1wbW1hLW5pbmphLXR1cnRsZS1yZXRyYWN0aW9uLXByb2JsZW1zLWZvci1ncm93ZXJzLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA Ninja Turtle - Retraction Problems for GROWERS 13 years 3 months ago [\#1277632500](#1277632500) - **[hoddle10](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile")** - [![hoddle10's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html "View hoddle10's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1704891-hoddle10.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 3120 - Thanks: 50 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1704891) > HunkChunk wrote: > > > Issues: > > - would it even break down the collagen at all? > > - could it damage deeper functional tissues inside the shaft? > > - can it be carried by the bloodstream and cause damage elsewhere? > * Note: there is a lot of bloodflow down there... > > - reducing the collagen won't remove the PMMA beads, hence useless? > > > > > > HC I want to stress I'm not advocating the use of DMSO, as I'm not an expert and don't want to encourage anyone to do anything that is potentially harmful. However, I've long suspected that it could be of benefit to guys who have issues with PMMA. I've used it for several months at a time and never had any issues. So from my own experience and many guys on Thundersplace etc, it does seem safe if used responsibly (ie clean etc). But, again I stress I'm not advocating it or claiming I know for sure it's safe. I'm just saying that I have no worries about using it on myself and I'm the kind of guy that freaks out about possible side effects. In my experience it doesn't seem to dissolve scar tissue, as others have suggested, but it without doubt significantly softened it, which resulted the scar becoming much flatter and more natural feeling. As regards PMMA, I think there is the possibility that it would soften the surrounding collagen and thus make massaging and re-moulding much more effective. You'd need to try it for a month at least and do it twice a day. By massaging the soft PMMA you should be changing the distribution of the beads, which I believe is responsible for the clumping. By the way, tacking can be done without degloving the penis. In the video the penis was degloved to insert the PLGA scaffolds, so they did the taking like that. But Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNjI5NTk5NS1wbW1hLW5pbmphLXR1cnRsZS1yZXRyYWN0aW9uLXByb2JsZW1zLWZvci1ncm93ZXJzLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: PMMA Ninja Turtle - Retraction Problems for GROWERS 13 years 3 months ago [\#1277623291](#1277623291) - **[Miracle8x7](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html "View Miracle8x7's Profile")** - [![Miracle8x7's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html "View Miracle8x7's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1724055-miracle8x7.html) - Moderator - ![Moderator](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rankmod.gif) - Posts: 1328 - Thanks: 1 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1724055) I never get the PMMA TMNT issue but 30% just doesn't feel as smooth and natural as lower concentrations. My shortest measurement Flaccid is 6.5". My only hope is that I haven't opened a "can of worms" with this and a final touchup session will resolve the issues I'm having. If I could go back in time, I would stick with 10% for every session no matter how many sessions were required. Just my 2'. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNjI5NTk5NS1wbW1hLW5pbmphLXR1cnRsZS1yZXRyYWN0aW9uLXByb2JsZW1zLWZvci1ncm93ZXJzLmh0bWw/bWFya2Rvd249MSZzdGFydD00NQ==) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. 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