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#  TOPIC: Dr.Samy Passy

##  Re: Dr.Samy Passy

   14 years 6 months ago [\#1272020328](#1272020328)

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 @eastender,
I think the best thing is to have the opinion of Dr. N., but I would squeeze these lumps and not only massaging them now (massaging will help mostly in the 1st 24 hrs and may be in the 1st 48 hrs but not after that) you need to squeeze these lumps and bumps hardly and try to prevent clumping of the beads at these areas more than the rest of the shaft esp. in the 1st 4 wks (that was the advice from Lemperle) and if they persist go for Kenalog injections in your next consultation.
In your next visit go for more aesthetic issues (e.g. Kenalog injections if needed??) and for touch-ups only and I wouldn't go for more Girth at the moment esp. if your FD is 5 cm or more, I will wait and use my tool for e.g. &gt; 6-9 months and then I will decide if I want to go for more Girth or not, PMMA will be always there if you need it in the future . (My advice to you never be addicted for more Girth).

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##  Re: Dr.Samy Passy

   14 years 6 months ago [\#1271737782](#1271737782)

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 @hoddle,
My BPEL is around 6.75"

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##  Re: Dr.Samy Passy

   14 years 6 months ago [\#1271695800](#1271695800)

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> smartman wrote: My FL now is 4" and it is a bit longer than before my PMMA and I am sure about that so it could be my FL before my PMMA is 3.5".
> Dr. S. will be in his office on the 10th of this month and he will inform me how many cc's did I get, but you could be right that I had a bit &gt; 30 cc's, we will see when I get his reply.
> What I know about Dr. S. he can inject Metacrill as much as your penis can take but I am sure he will stop when the FD reaches around 5 cm .
> I think all of you know that I have never said that you should get PMMA by Dr. S. and I hope everyone should get more information about this doctor before they go to him and they should do that, I have always and still trust Dr. C.'s technique and his PMMA penile conc. 10% or 20%, but I think he should increase his cc's and to use at least the 20% esp. in the 1st two rounds and then to use the lowest conc. e.g. 5% for touch-ups but that excluding somebody looking for only minor Girth gain, I think Dr.C. doesn't want quick (i.e. after 1 or 2 rds) huge Girth gain, but Dr. S. has a different opinion. BTW Dr. S. showed me his book in 2008 about PMMA Bioplasty in general and also Penile PMMA Bioplasty and there were many pic.s of penile PMMA injection.

 So let's say your shaft witout the head was 7cm, your Girth minus the area under the uretha was 6cm and the PMMA must had been 1cm in depth to add over 2cm to your diameter. That would require about 42cc of PMMA. Obviously those figures are just estimates, but they can't be that far off. The diameter increase tells us the 1cm depth must be pretty accurate. If you were 3.5" long, then the shaft skin must have covered around 7cm. A 3cm diameter means a Girth is 9.42, but we need to subtract a few CM as the penis isn't a true cylinder and PMMA isn't put underneath. I wouldn't be suprised if you had closer to 40cc's injected. It will be interesting to see what Dr Passy says when he returns. When FFT is injected, it's common to use 50cc or 60cc. I know PMMA and fat aren't the same, but their volume upon injection is, so it seems logical the penis can easily handle larger quantities of injectable. I guess aesthetics are the reason many Dr's prefer to lower volume, multiple session approach.

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##  Re: Dr.Samy Passy

   14 years 6 months ago [\#1271712187](#1271712187)

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 @Smartman:
"Dr. Samy Passy as most of you know he was my treating doctor " penile PMMA bioplasty ", I had only two rounds in 2008+2009, around 30 cc's each round (not 100% sure) only 30% conc. Metacrill , I gained 2 cm in the diam. of my Flaccid penis. My FG now is 6.3" and my EG is 6.75" and EL is 6"."
Then you say:
"Hoddle, unfortunately I have never measured my EG or FG before I have never thought about Girth that time"
How do you know you gained 2cm if you didn't measure FG stats before operation? Unless I misunderstood what you are actually saying??
The one thing I find highly discouraging reading results of PE in many forums, is that most people never post pics to prove their claim. Not saying that you are doing that...however, it would be nice if someone could back up their claim, especially if one said they gained a certain amount but didn't measure Girth stats before operation.
Don't take my post the wrong way, please. Like I said, I could have misunderstood something.

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##  Re: Dr.Samy Passy

   14 years 6 months ago [\#1271718589](#1271718589)

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 Thanks Hoddle10, you have said exactly what I meant :- ((Dr Passy measures the diameter in front of the patient and then injects until he reaches 4cm-4.5cm which he thinks is a good size. However Smartman askek him to keep going until he reached over 5cm. So whilst he didn't know his Girth measurements, he knew his diameter.))
@Tulsaguy ,
In regard the 2 cm gain in Flaccid diameter and not in Girth:-
I have always wanted like all of us here a bigger penis and I have never thought about a specific measurement in regard of Girth, when Dr.S. measured my Flaccid diam. directly before my 1st rd (it was 3 cm even after my alloderm graft 10 months before my PMMA which I lost almost all of it) he did not measure my penile Girth neither did I (that was in Oct. 2008 and that time I have never thought about Girth) he told me I will increase your Flaccid diam. till it reaches 4-4.5 cm and he said that is the normal "good"size penis, after the 1st round I was soooo happy I thought it was only a dream and I started in the following months thinking to have a bigger than this 4.2 cm in Flaccid diam., I started to measure different objects and I felt if my Erect diam. is 5 (2") or better if a bit &gt; 5 cm that will be my perfect penis (imo), so I said If I want this Erect diam.and to be sure about that my Flaccid diam. should be 5 cm and not less, then of course my Erect will be bigger, I realized later on that &gt;5cm Erect diam. definitely will give you &gt;6" Girth .
So I have never in my life measured Erect or Flaccid Girth before my PMMA only after I started to read in different forums about Girth and that was after my 1st PMMA.
Forget about my penis size now and I don't need to prove that for anyone but if you believe from seeing other pic.s before and after PMMA injection in this forum that there is a gain e.g. around 0.5" in Girth after injecting around 20 cc's @20% then wouldn't you believe if you were injected e.g. &gt; 30cc's lets say 40 cc's @ 30% wouldn't that give you a gain around 1" ???
I think we all agree that :- The gain will definitely depend on the volume of PMMA injected (and also of the conc.) it is no magic.
Also you can check the pic. before and after of big fred' penis who has huge Girth ( @30% Metacrill ) which is over the limit.
I bet you if you ask anyone here in the forum who had PMMA injection :- Would you prefer if you were injected with more volume than what you got ?? The answer will be a big YES in almost all of them, if you still don't believe me try to get at least 30 cc's @ 20% (if you can convince your dr.which I doubt it) and you will see what I meant.

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##  Re: Dr.Samy Passy

   14 years 6 months ago [\#1271851454](#1271851454)

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 From the e-mail I have received from Dr. S. in regard of the volume I have received in each round :-
1st rd ---&gt; 35 cc's2nd rd---&gt; 12 cc's
His technique is different, he injects in the 1st rd the main volume and try to reduce the volume in the following rounds.

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##  Re: Dr.Samy Passy

   14 years 6 months ago [\#1271695295](#1271695295)

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 Smartman's experience is clearly a complete success: no late onset of complications despite generous amount of PMMA injected.

At some point in the future, data available to this forum will be enough to officially establish whether skills and technique (eg, microcannluas, etc.) of the surgeon + quality of the product are just what is required for a totally (i.e. permanently) safe penis bioplasty procedure. For the moment, from a statistical standpoint, our sample is still too small/"young". Of course, I am assuming that brothers of the forum will not drop off the map and contribute to this unique fraternity for years to come.

Question for Smartman: has Dr. Passy ever needed to make an incision to remove PMMA from the penis? What about other (less serious) complications?

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##  Re: Dr.Samy Passy

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 Warning :-
For everyone esp. who had penile allograft in the past before his PMMA to be careful about the possibilities of severe penile infection imo to avoid this :-
1- They should take an antibiotic before the injection and 10-14 days afterwards e.g. Augmentin.2- No water coming near to the entry holes until they are completely healed.3- Try to convince your Dr. no entry holes at the Circumcision scar (in this area the old graft is very close to your thin skin) and there is a possibility of continuous mild bleeding and oozing of some fluid (that what had happened to my best friend and to CHL also).
These points are only my opinion and what I have seen and read about this bad experience, btw in my 1st rd I had the entry points at the Circumcision line and at the base but in the 2nd rd it were only at the base and around mid shaft.

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##  Re: Dr.Samy Passy

   14 years 6 months ago [\#1271694277](#1271694277)

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 Hoddle, unfortunately I have never measured my EG or FG before I have never thought about Girth that time, only my Flaccid diam. directly before my PMMA was (3 cm), my aim was always to have EG &gt; 6-6.5""so my plan was to have Flaccid diam. 5 cm or few mm more and not less (thats why I asked Dr.S. and insisted to have 5 cm Flaccid diam. and not less and he gave me around 5.2 cm) he told me 4-4.5 cm is his target always (actually he thinks 4 cm FD is enough) because the only thing you can measure directly after the injection is either Flaccid diam or Flaccid Girth.
IMO any one who wants his EG not to be less than 6" ---&gt; his Flaccid diam. has to be not less than 5 cm (2") after PMMA injection, that is not an advice for everyone it is just my opinion only, I have always thought about to have an EG +6" and I didn't want my EG to be &lt; 6", so that was the reason why I wanted my EG &gt; 6" ---&gt; incase I will have some minor loss in the future and I didn't want to go back again the long trip to Brazil .

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##  Re: Dr.Samy Passy

   14 years 6 months ago [\#1280145633](#1280145633)

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> Skeptical One wrote: > ositobuenagente wrote: I've been emailing Dr. Samy. I've even asked him if he was aware of the technique that Dr. Wade is using (PMMA on the glands) and he said he was not only aware but doing it.
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> > Let's see how much is costs.
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> It's Nurse Wade, not Dr. Wade.

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##  Re: Dr.Samy Passy

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 @ndbig1,
In regard of your Q. is there any danger of mixing these 2 products ?? I have asked Lemperle long time ago about this and he said there is no problem both contain PMMA beads.
What I read is Dr. Marcio Serra and Dr. Samy Passy has longer experience in PMMA injection than Dr.Almir Nacul (who was the 1st one to introduce the idea about PMMA grafting and PMMA bioplasty with blunt micro-cannula in Brazil) and Dr. A. Nacul taught Dr.C. about his technique.
As far as I remember Dr. C. has around 6 yrs experience in PMMA penile injection. And Dr. S. has 8-10 yrs experience.

@Supa,
(( has Dr. Passy ever needed to make an incision to remove PMMA from the penis? What about other (less serious) complications? ))
He has never mentioned that to me and he wouldn't if he really had it done, he told me he used sometimes intra-lesional steroid injection e.g. Kenalog .
I could ask him for you, but I have the feeling he will say I have never needed to remove any PMMA from my patients ???

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##  Re: Dr.Samy Passy

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 Having been fortunate enough to have had 20cc of 30% Metacrill I have increased Flaccid diameter (measured at the base) by 1.5cm.I am scheduled to go back on Feb 25th for second procedure and having gained knowledge from this thread will be encouraging the Dr to go with another round of 20cc of 30%.I think altogether 50cc of 30% should get me my desired end result particularly having read Smartmans views my last session would be 15cc just to correct any irregularities.I wil keep the brotherhood informed

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##  Re: Dr.Samy Passy

   14 years 6 months ago [\#1272016111](#1272016111)

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 After two rounds I have desired 5.2 Flaccid diameter,I do have a few lumps and bumps and I think what where calling a bb.Im remaining positive massaging and trusting my body to Repair but will be talking the Dr N soon any advice would be greatfully excepted.I would say Im still impressed with what has been achieved and will go back for 3rd round too fixs asthetics and get bit more Girth lol

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##  Re: Dr.Samy Passy

   14 years 6 months ago [\#1271695343](#1271695343)

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 My FL now is 4" and it is a bit longer than before my PMMA and I am sure about that so it could be my FL before my PMMA is 3.5".
Dr. S. will be in his office on the 10th of this month and he will inform me how many cc's did I get, but you could be right that I had a bit &gt; 30 cc's, we will see when I get his reply.
What I know about Dr. S. he can inject Metacrill as much as your penis can take but I am sure he will stop when the FD reaches around 5 cm .
I think all of you know that I have never said that you should get PMMA by Dr. S. and I hope everyone should get more information about this doctor before they go to him and they should do that, I have always and still trust Dr. C.'s technique and his PMMA penile conc. 10% or 20%, but I think he should increase his cc's and to use at least the 20% esp. in the 1st two rounds and then to use the lowest conc. e.g. 5% for touch-ups but that excluding somebody looking for only minor Girth gain, I think Dr.C. doesn't want quick (i.e. after 1 or 2 rds) huge Girth gain, but Dr. S. has a different opinion. BTW Dr. S. showed me his book in 2008 about PMMA Bioplasty in general and also Penile PMMA Bioplasty and there were many pic.s of penile PMMA injection.

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##  Re: Dr.Samy Passy

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 @ Hoddle and smartman:
Thanks for the clarification

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