--- title: "Lengthening with Gary Alter? - PhalloBoards - Phalloboards" description: "Does anyone have any experience with Gary Alter of California and New York? He seems trustworthy - his website is very clear about... - Page 2" url: "https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/general-phalloplasty-discussion-archive/5423455-lengthening-with-gary-alter.html?start=15" date: "2026-08-06T20:34:06+00:00" language: "en-GB" --- PhalloBoards - An Online Community to Discuss Penile Girth Enhancement General Forum Doctors Forum Username Password Remember me - [ Forgot your password? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/reset.html?Itemid=101) - [ Forgot your username? ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/component/users/remind.html?Itemid=101) - [ Create an account ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) # TOPIC: Lengthening with Gary Alter? ## Re: Lengthening with Gary Alter? 15 years 3 days ago [\#1269648813](#1269648813) - **[KFH](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1744414-kfh.html "View KFH's Profile")** - [![KFH's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1744414-kfh.html "View KFH's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1744414-kfh.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 131 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1744414) Do you by any chance know how much Dr.Viel charges for penile lengthening miracle7? I've been recommended to get in contact with Dr. David Ralph, so I've sent him an e-mail an hour ago. He charges '2500 ($4060). Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNTQyMzQ1NS1sZW5ndGhlbmluZy13aXRoLWdhcnktYWx0ZXIuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Lengthening with Gary Alter? 15 years 3 days ago [\#1269669566](#1269669566) - **[Justabitmore](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1726411-justabitmore.html "View Justabitmore's Profile")** - [![Justabitmore's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1726411-justabitmore.html "View Justabitmore's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1726411-justabitmore.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 377 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1726411) My 5 pence worth Viel is a very good and caring surgeon. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNTQyMzQ1NS1sZW5ndGhlbmluZy13aXRoLWdhcnktYWx0ZXIuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Lengthening with Gary Alter? 15 years 3 days ago [\#1269812422](#1269812422) - **[Sheldon](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1727297-sheldon.html "View Sheldon's Profile")** - [![Sheldon's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1727297-sheldon.html "View Sheldon's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1727297-sheldon.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 57 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1727297) From what I read about Dr. Alter in the old mns was that he was not too aggressive in cutting the susp ligament but on the other hand, he 'will not f_ck you up' either. He is supposed to be good at repairing botched PE surgeries. Although he has an office in NY (or at least he did at one time) he only does surgery in CA. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNTQyMzQ1NS1sZW5ndGhlbmluZy13aXRoLWdhcnktYWx0ZXIuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Lengthening with Gary Alter? 15 years 3 days ago [\#1269669578](#1269669578) - **[Justabitmore](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1726411-justabitmore.html "View Justabitmore's Profile")** - [![Justabitmore's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1726411-justabitmore.html "View Justabitmore's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1726411-justabitmore.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 377 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1726411) @M7 I agree everything I have ever read about PE Gary Alters name is one of the only names with no mud on! He is very conservative! M7 did yu have your ligs cut or where you just born half man half horse? Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNTQyMzQ1NS1sZW5ndGhlbmluZy13aXRoLWdhcnktYWx0ZXIuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Lengthening with Gary Alter? 15 years 3 days ago [\#1269669580](#1269669580) - **[KFH](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1744414-kfh.html "View KFH's Profile")** - [![KFH's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1744414-kfh.html "View KFH's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1744414-kfh.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 131 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1744414) > Justabitmore wrote: My 5 pence worth Viel is a very good and caring surgeon. Do you know how much he charges for penile lengthening procedure alone? Does he also recommend the use of a stretcher post-op? Also, does he have an e-mail address I can contact him on? 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I have heard good things from his Ligamentolysis and FFT patients though as well as from physicians that are friends of mine. He seems very competent and caring. Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNTQyMzQ1NS1sZW5ndGhlbmluZy13aXRoLWdhcnktYWx0ZXIuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Lengthening with Gary Alter? 15 years 3 days ago [\#1269626848](#1269626848) - **[ttar2380](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725613-ttar2380.html "View ttar2380's Profile")** - [![ttar2380's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725613-ttar2380.html "View ttar2380's Profile") Topic Author - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1725613-ttar2380.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 58 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1725613) Does anyone have any experience with Gary Alter of California and New York? He seems trustworthy - his website is very clear about the potential limitations of lengthening, and he's stopped doing girth procedures due to concerns about redistribution of fat. [ www.altermd.com/Penis%20Enhancement/penile\_lengthening.htm](http://www.altermd.com/Penis%20Enhancement/penile_lengthening.htm) The argument that he makes - that lengthening may not alone do much, but it "facilitates" stretching - seems to make sense. Does anyone have any reactions to that? Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNTQyMzQ1NS1sZW5ndGhlbmluZy13aXRoLWdhcnktYWx0ZXIuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Lengthening with Gary Alter? 15 years 3 days ago [\#1270161382](#1270161382) - **[allofme2](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1726167-allofme2.html "View allofme2's Profile")** - [![allofme2's Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg)](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1726167-allofme2.html "View allofme2's Profile") - [ Offline](https://j4.phalloboards.info/forum/user/1726167-allofme2.html) - General - ![General](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank1.gif) - Posts: 18 - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1726167) The reason Alter only does surgery in CA is because the statute of limitations in CA which limits a max claim of $250,000 for medical malpractice. 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They ask a flat sum including several days of lodging and care,, the operation including ligament cut from the scrotum, scrotal webbing reduction and pelvic liposuction. It is unbeatable pricing if you need all three procedures, but one must first seriously check out their references and we need to know a lot more before endorsing this clinic. It will however be one of my main leads to investigate during the coming year. HC Please [Log in](https://j4.phalloboards.info/login.html?return=aHR0cHM6Ly9qNC5waGFsbG9ib2FyZHMuaW5mby9mb3J1bS9nZW5lcmFsLXBoYWxsb3BsYXN0eS1kaXNjdXNzaW9uLWFyY2hpdmUvNTQyMzQ1NS1sZW5ndGhlbmluZy13aXRoLWdhcnktYWx0ZXIuaHRtbD9tYXJrZG93bj0xJnN0YXJ0PTE1) or [Create an account](https://j4.phalloboards.info/register.html) to join the conversation. ## Re: Lengthening with Gary Alter? 15 years 3 days ago [\#1269628393](#1269628393) - - !['s Avatar](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/core/svg/person.svg) - Pending Email Verification - ![Pending Email Verification](https://j4.phalloboards.info/media/kunena/ranks/rank2.gif) - Thanks: 0 - [ ](https://j4.phalloboards.info/pms.html?task=new&recip=1723747) @KFH My sense is that you might want to try the stretching routines found at Thundersplace first before resorting to surgical intervention. Several people have gained Erect length just by stretching and Jelqing, including Skeptical One, the administrator here, who gained I think half an Inch, as well as I believe a member called new1inch (he posted a report of his stretching routine on this site). If you don't gain then maybe you could have the surgery (though I'm not aware of its efficacy on a large scale level) and then stretch. That's just my two cents, though, and good luck. 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The others just seem greedy and ready to do anything to charge you lots of money. 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For some reason I also found it encouraging that Dr. Alter performs sex changes (NOT because I'm thinking of one... ), but because that seems to be a fairly well regulated and studied area. Basically it seems to contrast him against people like Elist, who seem to only be in on the PE racket. Does anyone know what the general post-op stretching regimen looks like? I tried an ADS in 2009 but could only maintain 3 months of 8 hours per day. Is it basically the same thing post-op, or are the hours less? @miracle, good point about the 85% dissatisfaction rate! I think a lot of this may be from unrealistic expectations. I'm currently about 6 EL, and I understand the realistic outcomes of this surgery. If I could gain 1 Inch FL and 0.5 Inch EL, I would already be satisfied. Anything more would be gravy! @KFH - I was also interested in UGRS's website for a while, since they seem to be so authoritative. Then things started shifting on their site, and their "authoritative" tone instead started to come off as condescending and evasive! 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