TOPIC: PMMA injection for Glans enhancement can be done

I guess things went well for them then. Can't wait to hear the details.

IM saving my money already for this procedure..lol... im excited. I hope Dr. C start offering this soon

HC,
I have just spoken to Dr. El-Seweifi on the phone (he was very nice and he answered most of my Q.s) he told me :-
I have used Artecoll injection for years but the results will stay only for one year and he prefers the DFG; he inserts it through two lateral incisions . He has stopped doing Artecoll for a year only because of its duration, but he told me if you want Artecoll I can do it for you ??? He had no cases of Necrosis or other serious complications from it.
I was so surprised with his statement I told him PMMA is a permanent material , and I have Artecoll in my body for 15 years, I told him about the Korean paper that the injection should be superficial and not deeper than 3 mm (deeper than that you will inject PMMA into the Corpus Spongiousum) .
My conclusion in regard of his Artecoll's injection is either :-
1- ?? His technique :- he is injecting the beads deeper than it should be and implanting the beads into the blood ???
2- Or less likely there are no or little new collagen formation around the beads in the laminae propria of mucosa: I doubt that .
The only good thing I conclude from this is:- There was no serious complication from injecting PMMA into the Glans, so it can be done but the only Q. is how long it will stay, is it the Technique ???
I would like if somebody can show Dr.C. (during his consultation with him) about these 2 points and to know his opinion :- 1- The Korean paper in injecting PMMA into the laminae propria of the mucosa of the glans .
2- And also about Dr. El-sweifi Artecoll injection.
I know that he will still refuse doing it , but there is no harm of showing him these informations .
Thanks

DWD, could you please link to the photos that you referenced? thanks!

2nd what dwd said

I have read previous posts, where it was said PMMA doesn't have the same effects of inflammation that it has on the face, very biased opinions, but it has become clear that PMMA has the same effect on some people penises, as it does on some peoples face. I wonder what happens when someone gets an inflamed penis head (granuloma), because you can't de-gloved the head of the penis..... to remove the PMMA. PMMA does have excellent result with people with HIV only because their immune systems are weaker, so less likely to attack the PMMA. I advise caution to anyone who will get this penis head procedure in the future. I am still sitting on the fence, when it comes to PMMA, maybe one day.

I have asked Lemperle's opinion about Dr. A.El-seweifi's Artecoll injection results :-

"You are correct ! He either used another product (Radiesse or Sculptra) or went too deep into the spongious tissue...
We all know that dermal fat grafts will be absorbed over time...otherwise, we ALL WOULD DO IT ! "-

I know some people wouldn't agree with Lemperle but I just want you to know all the information I get .
I have also sent an e-mail to Dr.Samy Passy in Rio. about the Korean paper and also about the doctor in Berlin , I just want to know his opinion too.
I would like to know what is Dr.C.'s opinion about these informations (in Korea and in Berlin) ---> no serious complication ???
Did he ever try it ? Did he inject e.g. a very small amount of Newplastic in a small area of the corona???

Yes, if I recall it was not PMMA that was used in this technique. But I thought Dr C said the product did have a small amount of PMMA in it. And Lipen does sound familiar so I believe it must be Lipen-P. But he did say that is does go away over time. Sorry, I can't be certain, at the time it was all new to me.

I have sent an e-mail to Lemperle about this doctor's technique in using Artecoll for the Glans and that was his reply :-
I know Dr. El-Seweifi well - but never met him in person, because I asked him some 10 years ago to publish his method of wrapping a non-absorbable net (mesh) around the penis in my book on Aestetische Chirurgie (aesthetic surgery). Concerning a glans augmentation, my feeling is to augment the corona only to make it fit to the shaft. This can be done by Artecoll, as it has been done with a temporary fillers before , but it must be applied very superficially - because the rest of the glans is a spongy tissues , where you may get intravascular and may inject it into the blood stream. However, Artecoll is not anymore on the market since the Chinese bought the factory EMCM in Nijmegen, Holland. Dr. El-Seweifi could buy the Artecoll directly from EMCM, as I know. Best, Gottfried

@Allgood
Here is a link to the thread:
PRFM Resultshttp://PhalloBoards.websitetoolbox.com/post?id=5415968
Cheers,
HC

We started clinical trials of Glans enhancement using Lipen D to get approval from Korea FDA. It is go along under management of KFDA.
I think non-biodegradable PMMA materials is not suitable on glans enhancement even if there is previous successful experiences.
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Since the target area of injection is connected right with Corpus Spongiosum without anatomical septum , I suggest it will not necessarily be safe even though the particle size of PMMA 100 micon.*And cross linked Dextran could be long-lasted in the human body, it remains stable within the collagen tissue capsule at any cost, and if there is no tissue capsule, it biodegrades. I have many successful experiences about it.

Do we know what specific technique they're going to learn? Is it the R stuff/PMMA combo procedure? It just seemed like none of the available Korean techniques were that great, so I'm wondering if we should really be that excited.

My understanding is that they have gone and are almost certainly still in the Korean peninsula.

Hi Michael,

From what I understand, it isn't exactly PMMA that might be used for the glans but another compound without PMMA developed in South Korea. This must be of course confirmed, but from what I gathered about Dr Cho's procedure in Seoul, it is a form of Lippen without PMMA which is used for the glans (Lippen "D" for Dextran).

Once Dr C has returned from his travels and taken in the know-how from his colleague, we may learn more. I am certain all this will be transparent and quite clear prior to anyone being offered this procedure at Dr C's clinic. It is a promising procedure, especially for those with small glans and prone to serious retraction inside a PMMA enhanced shaft. For others, it is merely an aesthetic consideration which may help sculpt them the ideal unit...

Hunk Chunk

Hi Smartman,


This isn't quite the good news I and others here had hoped for! At least there is some progress in glans enhancement research and applications. Two things irk me about Lipen-


- cost: roughly $4000 to $5000 for 4 tiny shots in the glans during a brief outpatient procedure. This product is outrageously priced, even if the research, patenting and clinic time is included. One milliliter is a very small quantity. He also is quoting the amount of product meant to enhance a Korean, when it is rather well known that in the ethnic distribution of penis size, they are at the lower end of the spectrum. We can assume that we might need between 10 and 15 milliliters, which could make the cost skyrocket. That is a heavy budget for a small portion of our anatomy, especially as this isn't a one time only procedure?


- permanence: it only lasts 2 years? So this is just another resorbable filler which at least works without flowering or adverse reactions? That is a long way from a permanent solution such as PMMA. I hope that one day they shall find a way to permanently enhance this part of our anatomy. There must be some material which can be used similarly without serious health or aesthetic risks. BACK TO THE DRAWING BOARD...


I had understood that they had come up with a breakthrough, but the PMMA breakthrough for shaft girth enhancement may have led to excessive expectations among us. Actually, clinical dextran isn't as expensive as one might think. Non clinical is rather cheap when compared to the prices charged, plus the clinical cannot correspond really to what is billed when you consider that it is supplied in quantities from 100 grams per unit and as high as 50 kilograms of powder in a single package (as large as a cement bag). Let's hope such high pricing at the only clinic in the world offering this procedure doesn't lead the daredevils among us to inject themselves !


www.dextran.net/dextrans-clinical-dextran.html


Dextran is a branched glucan composed of linear ?(1?6) linked glucose units and ? (1?3) link initiated branches. Dextran ranges in size from 10,000 to 150,000 Kd. Dextrans are used in many applications as volume extenders, stabilizers, matrix components, binding platforms, lubricants and physical structure components.

SOURCE: Sigma Aldrich Dextran from Leuconostoc


I really hope they also propose Lipen-P which makes the procedure and travel around the planet cost-effective if not done every 2 years... Keep us posted when you hear back, and many thanks for saving us all the footwork to find this out for ourselves!


HC